Gawndy the Great

That is a ridiculous take. Oliver may never get back to his best - I will concede that - but selling now is akın to shorting Apple stock right before they released the 1st gen iPhone. You never sell low and right now Oliver cannot get much worse. Even if he ‘misbehaved’ it will likely nullify his contract and he’d be off our books - that to me is worst case. If he somehow becomes a top 20 ranked player again next year AND we had to do a trade, then I think we at least get 1st round pick with no salary concessions. At least with a solid pre season, we’d know where he is truly at. As for Houston, he’s the type of player you’d take on your way up the mountain not on the way down. I’m convinced we are on the way down - not in free fall but mini rebuild territory. Need to restock our mids with better ball users and more athletic types - Butters / Serong are the types we are in need of. Decisions like giving up 2 first rounders for Houston now may get us back in finals but it will be short lived and the implications will be a longer and deeper rebuild right when Tassie comes in.

Sad but true. Now that it’s highly unlikely we make finals , I think we’ll give in and prep for 25. Going to be a hard watch the next couple- expecting a few spankings.

Nope can’t stand them and three first round picks this years they’ll get more talent into an already talented side.

Gus‘s loss (ppl will come for me) I think was more leadership on/off. He was solid in a game day sense, reliable, but seldomly shot the lights out. it’s definitely a factor , but not a major one.

What else can they say ? They ain’t going to pot him publically. Im sure they do - but they can still be against his coaching and game plan

They don’t. However long before the major injuries we still lost to Freo by 90+ points , Brisbane by 50 odd at the G. This year was not about personnel, it was evident from very early on that we came up with a new/revised game plan, sides works it out within a few weeks and then we got caught out. I think we’ll be about the same next year maybe 1-2 more Ws but we will still miss finals as we continue rebuilding. I’d pass on Houston and maybe look at it again in 1-2 years when hopefully we re enter the window.

Blues not winning it either. Lions will choke.. no idea who’s gonna win it.

May refractures ribs. Didn’t see the contest anybody see anything? I wonder if the incident may have been a rib tickler or in play?

Sydney not winning it this year. Form is atrocious. Geez we really picked a year to fall away.

F50 connection right there there by Curnow

By then it will be too late. Strike now while there is a glimmer of hope next year

Best you’ll get for either is a 2nd rounder

Back to celebrating an AA jacket or maybe two and watching other teams in the finals series. I can’t even golf anymore to keep my mind off footy, which got me through the real tough years.

That is 100% on the money. I’m not saying we go back to 2018 attacking style, but we have gone way over the top with defence. We have lost all dare and creativity. No wonder the effort is waning. This was genuinely a lost year - we gained nothing game plan wise. Yes saw some kids, but our plan is diabolical and rudderless. 2025 is not going to be smooth sailing if we keep this up. We need to see something, some positivity. Hell I’d even take winning 2 consecutive quarters.

Lingers and McVee will get rubbed out. May will miss too. Get ready for a nice pantsing. I’m expecting a 10+ goal loss.

Bevo was close to getting booted this year. Funny how he has turned it around. We however go the other way.

Double straight sets a success is it? Win at least one of those and we probably have a flag. I think it’s the right time for a FD reset. Things have turned stagnant and we need to search for our next premiership coach.

Go up for the ball at least. [censored] weak.

ANB doing stupid things again.

I’m not even angry anymore. We are literally rock bottom. No fight, no class , nothing. We are fast becoming a joke and irrelevant.

It didn’t look like it in the telly. And no one is questioning it.

We have to be the club with the most FD up score reviews in the history of score reviews.

It’s not a witch hunt he’s gone.

Trac and Oliver with a preseason, is not the difference here. Don’t be fooled into thinking everything in 25 will be all right. There’s losing and then there’s losing. This game should be over. Doggies should be up by 50 points. That is not a 1 -1.5 player difference. Yes we are banged up but guess what, guarantee you that half their squad is probably carrying something too. Goodwin has got this team playing so conservative and so slow that there is nothing positive about anything we do. The season is done, take the shackles off and play with some flare and positivity and implement changes now. Don’t wait until pre season.

What is going on Rivers?