Matsuo Basho

Why?

Good luck to him but I just can’t get excited sorry. Have him in the same NQR basket as JKH , Oscar and a few others. A fumbly momentum killer at AFL level.

With you. 2.4m over 3y or 2.8m over 4y. Get it done. Make Hill one half of the silver lining of this bottom six finish. The other half being the best available kid in the top six of the draft. We can seriously improve our list this October if we play our cards right.

Kudos to you most certainly JohnnyD. Think ‘Brad Hill’ deserves its own thread though given today’s public comments by Denham. He usually has pretty good mail.

Cheers. Edited. Surely we would prioritise a player like Brad Hill over another defender in Alex Keath (not convinced about that rumour).

Greg Denham just said on SEN he wants out of Freo and will be seeking a return to Victoria for the 2020 season. No club yet specified. Triple premiership Hawk wingman, Freo B&F 2017, exquisitely skilled smooth mover. And still only 25yo. Statistically 2019 is shaping as the best season he’s put together as well. Showing absolutely no decline in his output. You’ll have to mount a pretty strong case as to why we should go hard after this player given his skill set is exactly what we need. Start the bidding at our second round pick thank you very much. And cue the negative Nellies in 3 - 2 - 1 ... ”He’d cost too much ... “ ”He’ll only go to club X, Y or Z” ”Overrated ... “ ”Off field problems ... “ Etc etc etc. Yawn.

I was a huge Steven Stretch fan growing up. Along with Brett Lovett and Garry Lyon I rated him as one of the three most skilful players to grace the MCG in red and blue during that halcyon Northey era. He had the most exquisite kicking skills, with a technique that more than a few of our current crop of young midfielders could learn from. At full tilt, left or right foot, Stretcher could dart a low trajectory pass onto the chest of a moving player anywhere up to 55m away. I used to imagine I was him in after school street footy scraps with the boys next door! Looking forward to the interview.

Thanks for re-posting my posts LN. I know they’re good but let’s give others a chance to shine ?

Please read the entirety of my posts rather than try, like LordNev, to cherry pick sentences out of them, then inaccurately twist their meaning. Strange how posters keep attacking me while ignoring the fact that we’ve got the worst two performing key forwards in the AFL competition. Why so sensitive? I’m just stating the obvious.

It doesn’t contradict it at all. You are extrapolating from the sentence “two players with the most pressure on them in the league” a meaning that doesn’t exist. Two players having ‘the most’ pressure on them says nothing about the degree of pressure on every other player in the team, other than the fact that it will not be as great as those two. And what does ‘somewhat contradict’ even mean? There is either a contradiction or there isn’t. The opposite would be to say that there is ‘virtually no contradiction’, which is similarly meaningless because it employs the arbitrary adverb ‘virtually’. Anyhoo - Weid and TMac have both been scheizenhausen in 2019 and that’s that!

You can’t say that though with any degree of certainty. Different team mates, different home ground, different coach, different mindset. Too many variables in that lot to conclude that Hogan wouldn’t have had a decent 2019 if he’d stayed in red and blue. Who knows, even if he’d had just 2 or 3 big games out of 12 that we haven’t got from either of Weid and TMac, there’s potentially another 8 - 12 premiership points and you’re still in the finals hunt heading into the back half of the season, with key players returning. I’m not arguing this because I think Hogan should’ve stayed. I believed he was gone halfway through 2018, just to point out the flaws in the idea that “Hogan wouldn’t have made a difference anyway.” Given his ability to kick 50+ goals in multiple seasons, that’s more unlikely than likely.

No idea why you’ve quoted those two comments. They don’t have anything to do with my previous post, nor are they contradictory.

I haven’t done this. I’ve merely pointed out their dual failures so far in 2019 as key forwards. It’s beyond dispute. I concur that there are other issues negatively affecting team performance well.

TMac and Weid have kicked a combined 18 goals in 20 games this season. That’s not one but your TWO key forwards combining for less than a goal per AFL game. This despite Melbourne having had the SECOND highest number of forward entries among all eighteen clubs in 2019 thus far. Posters who keep defending these two really should read that paragraph again and just let those returns sink in for a minute or two. If that doesn’t make them quite possibly the two players with the most pressure on them in the league I don’t know what else they’d have to do (or in their case, not do). Hogan will be looking to impress though, no doubt.

The fitter and more match ready you are the less likely you will a) be susceptible to these kind of knocks and b) able to rebound quickly when they do occur. All pointers say he wasn’t ready to return.

Lever brought back too early by the fitness gurus. What a surprise. And that is the least imposing looking MFC forward six on paper we’ve seen in some years. Preuss can’t get a run among that lot? Really? Can’t win games of footy if you’ve got no firepower. Freo by 7 goals. ANB ... ugh.

Bring back James Sellar!

Please enlighten the forum about 'current meme culture' and linking whatever the hell that is to this intriguing accusation that I am mocking people with autism. What a fantastically insulting thing to spit out. I'm all ears ?

I'm with you Moonie. Tedium well and truly has set in. Shame because it's a fascinating subject.

There it is. Toys out of the cot time. Reeeeyyy!

I can’t be any more clear on this issue. If you’re unable to watch that video and appreciate the truth it’s presenting and how it relates to this discussion then it probably stands that I am more intelligent than you, yes. I don’t mean to sound arrogant and honestly I do appreciate your efforts to understand, but ... I guess that’s just the way it goes. I ‘aint tryin’ to preach, I believe I can reach, but your mind ain’t prepared ... I’ll see you when you get there. Will you ever get there? Some Coolio there for you on a Thursday afternoon. I’ll give you that for free.

Watch the video yet, gents? C'mon, it's only 6 minutes long. "My activism did not spring from my being gay, or for that matter, from my being black. Rather it is rooted fundamentally in my Quaker upbringing and the values that were instilled in me by my grandparents who reared me. Those values are based on the concept of a single human family and the belief that all members of that family are equal. Adhering to those values has meant making a stand against injustice, to the best of my ability, wherever and whenever it occurs." - Bayard Rustin, American human rights activist and senior advisor to Martin Luther King Jnr (who also incidentally criticized white so-called progressives). That's real liberalism right there. All men are created equal type stuff. Judge by the content of character not by the colour of skin type stuff. Not this cheap watered down rubbish cowards propagate to feel better about themselves. Matsuo Basho - 5 The Mob - 0 (Forfeited) * Crickets *

Great stuff Deespicable. Enjoyed reading.

Interesting suggestion. I like what he offers. Had a slow start to the season but has really kicked on in the past month. Undoubtedly he would offer our midfield the pace and outside run that it currently lacks. Would we trade one of our bulls (except Oliver) for him? The Bombers lack this so it might make sense for both clubs structurally. Dodoro would not accept a second round pick.

White liberal syndrome. It’s real folks. “This syndrome causes white liberals to expect less from blacks out of a desire to signal to others their awareness of racism ... and to believe that white people have no authority to talk about race issues. Bayard saw this as just another way that whites exploited blacks. Not for money or power in this case but for moral absolution. Or as he put it ‘Negros have been used and exploited in many ways by white Americans but it is only recently that they have been asked to satisfy the masochistic craving of disenchanted liberals for self-flaggelation and rejection’.” Mmm. Uncomfortable reading for some of you I would imagine. Published the New York Times no less by black race commentator Coleman Hughes. Wonderful writer I highly recommend him. Watch.