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But Geelong, GWS, Richmond and Collingwood all finished 2018 later and are entrenched in the top eight in 2019. Hawthorn and West Coast after six rounds sit just outside it. All of those clubs have injury issues to juggle as well. What a pox excuse by Misson. It’s musical chairs time at the MFC and the finger pointing has begun!

Early evidence says ‘yes’ and ‘yes’.

Is Goody too nice? Fair question I reckon. As a supporter and an outsider looking in our coach looks to be very ‘matey matey’ with the boys. As the assistant coach under Roos for several years it is understandable (and preferable) he developed this type of rapport with the playing group but as he is now discovering in his second year in the hot seat, things are a far different proposition as top banana at AFL level. Relationships become far more complex. Tough calls have to be made. Noses on occasion have to be put out of joint and very occasionally a few cages rattled. I don’t know that I’m convinced on what I’m seeing publicly, at least not so far, that Goody has what it takes to rise to these types of challenges and command a respect that goes beyond friendship with people and into the realm of genuine leadership and man motivation. He comes across as overly measured, robotic and clichè driven in media press conferences. Certainly got all the footy industry speak and jargon down pat. But we need more than that. Much more. We’re talking about a fetid club culture here of ‘near enough’s good enough’’ acceptance that dates back as far as I can remember following the club. Back to the early 80’s. Many of you old timers will declare that it extends back even further than that. Self-satisfaction and rolling along in a comfort zone is now a deeply ingrained part of the DNA of the MFC. The worry here is that Simon Goodwin inherited the fruits of Paul Roos masterclass in footy club rebuilding , rode that wave without too much stress in 2018, but is now finding out just how truly gargantuan the task is going to be to have this club genuinely challenging for silverware. It’s the Mt Everest of jobs in this competition. Matey matey clichè robot man is simply not going to cut it from here on in. Nice guys do often finish last. And right now - lo and behold - that’s exactly where we find ourselves.

Bump. See above.

See you and raise you.

It doesn’t bother me what you think of my posts. However cheers for helping keep the Jonno Patton thread front and centre. We seriously need this guy.

Is Goody too nice? Fair question I reckon. As a supporter and an outsider looking in our coach looks to be very ‘matey matey’ with the boys. As the assistant coach under Roos for several years it is understandable (and preferable) he developed this type of rapport with the playing group but as he is now discovering in his second year in the hot seat, things are a far different proposition as top banana at AFL level. Relationships become far more complex. Tough calls have to be made. Noses on occasion have to be put out of joint and very occasionally a few cages rattled. I don’t know that I’m convinced on what I’m seeing publicly, at least not so far, that Goody has what it takes to rise to these types of challenges and command a respect that goes beyond friendship with people and into the realm of genuine leadership and man motivation. He comes across as overly measured, robotic and clichè driven in media press conferences. Certainly got all the footy industry speak and jargon down pat. But we need more than that. Much more. We’re talking about a fetid club culture here of ‘near enough’s good enough’’ acceptance that dates back as far as I can remember following the club. Back to the early 80’s. Many of you old timers will declare that it extends back even further than that. Self-satisfaction and rolling along in a comfort zone is now a deeply ingrained part of the DNA of the MFC. The worry here is that Simon Goodwin inherited the fruits of Paul Roos masterclass in footy club rebuilding , rode that wave without too much stress in 2018, but is now finding out just how truly gargantuan the task is going to be to have this club genuinely challenging for silverware. It’s the Mt Everest of jobs in this competition. Matey matey clichè robot man is simply not going to cut it from here on in. Nice guys do often finish last. And right now - lo and behold - that’s exactly where we find ourselves.

Augustus sounds about right.

Taken down by logic so you play the man. Typical rubbish from you Binman. Put yourself outside for a spell on the nature strip.

Disposal efficiency (64%) higher than Coniglio (61%). Plus more clearances and more tackles. Regardless, neither are the type of midfielder we urgently need. We’ve got the grunt, lack the silk.

Sheedy in his coaching prime would’ve tried it. Agree on Frost as a defender though. He and Oscar just marking time back there.

People underestimate the value of a good run-with/shut-down player. Even the likes of Cripps and Bont can be curtailed with an opponent on their ginger for four quarters. Takes a particular type of player though. Frost would be a left field choice sure but he has the tank and closing speed to worry any direct opponent on the ground. Nothing ventured nothing gained and his career in defence fizzles out ignominiously. It was good to see Goodwin at least starting to think along these lines on the weekend by sending Hibberd to Dusty. Can’t allow these stars to have free run at it anymore.

Coniglio will cost too much forget it. Our go now is to look for value in the market not blue chip stock which we can’t afford. Patton 700k + Jack Martin 700k is smarter trading than $1.2m for Coniglio. Taranto is better than Coniglio btw.

Good call. Capable of providing serious frontal pressure where skills aren’t necessarily first priority. Or ... with his fitness base possibly train him up for shut down roles on the big bodied oppo midfielders like Cripps and Bontempelli. His weaknesses outweigh his strengths in defence.

Correct. If shows how low our expectations of a defender have become that we accept rolling with guy like Frosty who, although quick and agile, has zero composure, fumbles and can’t hit the side of a barn door. EVERY player in your back six needs half decent skills, not just two or three of them. Fumbles and turnovers = goals against = losses.

Discussion about May seems to be the elephant in the room. Literally.

Play him at full forward with instructions to lead to the fat side.

When it comes to trading and recruiting some clubs go at 75/25. Others 50/50, the unsuccessful clubs (ie. us) more like 25/75. No-one’s perfect sure but to suggest all clubs get 50% right and 50% wrong is clearly nonsense. Hawthorn haven’t won 4 flags in ten years for no reason. Beau Dowler and Ty Vickery are among exceptions to a veritable cavalcade of successes. Its embarrassing reading our supporters, Moonshadow and others, pot Hawthorn in this thread. Flat out embarrassing.

Dream podcast guests - a group with Petracca, Goodwin, May and a few no-filter types like Kane Cornes, Blighty and Grant Thomas. No holds barred. Let’s air the dirty laundry.

Sshhh Hardtack that sort of comment doesn’t fit the no-risk mindset of most Demonlanders.

Pike starred in 4 premiership sides if I’m not mistaken? One North, three Lions’ flags. He was too tough a player for Melbourne.

Get Jack Martin on one wing and a Wayne Milera type on the other and watch Clarry, Gus and Jack flourish. The problem is obvious.

Worst excuse ever. The Suns allow their players to skip cardio sessions and eat vanilla slices at will? Please.