Dee Boys

This isn't a new phenomenon. Clubs have been training in training jumpers for as long as I've been alive. I can't think of any sport where players train in their game day attire.

West Coast never had the pick after ours to offer. Their offer was for us to slide back 7 spots for their future second (c. pick 25 next year). Which on the face of it was never going to be anywhere near enough.

Any Dezi Freeman sightings?

Means he hasn't played a lot of top level footy at either underage or state level.

Agree. Reckon it's the most interesting content we get from the club every year.

First round tonight mate (27 picks!) We’ll have two tonight then one tomorrow.

Concur!

Mate no "beef" whatsoever. I just don't think he's quite as good a footballer as some others obviously do, for reasons I've gone into ad nauseam. That's OK! I'm sure there are other players that I rate more highly than others do. Anyway it's draft night, let's revisit this topic in 5 years time!

I did…

Not criticising us picking him mate. For now he’s best 22 and that’s a terrific result for an injury replacement player. Was just responding to the poster saying several other clubs couldn’t believe he was cut and were after him.

If many at other clubs couldn’t believe WCE let him go, why didn’t they pick him up when he was available to every club for nothing? It took a last minute injury to AMW before the window closed even for us to throw him a lifeline after he’d spent the whole summer training with us.

Ben Brown kicked 190 goals in three seasons, not really sure he's a valid comparison. He absolutely would've got a game at Richmond alongside Riewoldt before Tom Lynch arrived! Completely agree about your champion team call. All I'm saying is I don't think he's quite good enough to be a role player in a top team. People arguing he'd get in Brisbane's side ahead of the likes of mids, wings and forwards like McCluggage, Ashcroft x 2, Bailey, Cameron, Rayner, Neale, Dunkley, Lohmann, Berry etc have lost touch with reality. Some people think he'll get there in future. If you're one of those people then terrific! I have my doubts, that's all. As I said, I hope I'm wrong!

Charming! Wayne you clearly rate him more highly than I do. That's absolutely fine, that's life! I certainly hope I'd have better manners than to tell you that you have "NFI" simply for having a differing opinion however. Enjoy your day and Go Dees.

Absolutely mate. Just think that he's a rung or two below the best role players at the very top clubs.

And I'm not saying he's not a decent player. All I'm saying is that similar to the likes of Frost, Oscar McDonald, Weideman, Stretch, Hannan, Vandenberg, JKH, Hore etc who all got plenty of games for us as we were developing, that I think as we improve again to the point that we're (hopefully) contending again, he may struggle to get regular games. That's just my opinion! Not sure why it seems to have riled some people up so much.

My comprehension needs work?! I haven't insulted anyone. I just disagree, that's all. And that's absolutely fine. How boring would life be if everyone agreed on everything? Nice to be called a whippersnapper though, I'm 40!

Sorry but you’re delusional if you think he gets a game at those teams. He’s on the fringe of our best 22 and we’re a bottom 6 side. Saying West Coast’s list manager should be sacked on account of letting him go is also bizarre. We were the only club interested in him after they cut him and even after training with us for the entire pre-season he was still overlooked for Henderson who hadn’t even trained with us, and he only got a call up very late after AMW did his knee. He’s a serviceable AFL footballer but once we improve I think others will go past him and he won’t be best 22. That’s ok. Let’s agree to disagree and move on. Hope you’re proved right and he’s got a premiership medal around his neck one day.

No idea who that is but ask yourself whether he’d get a game at Brisbane, Geelong or Gold Coast. Or in our 2021 team. The top sides he’s not getting a look in.

AFL mate not VFL. And I stand by the fact it'd be up there. Disastrous.

Huh? I can repeat what I said if you like - the trade was EFFECTIVELY McAdam for ANB. The same pick. One was an incredibly durable and selfless premiership player, had played 180 games and had just finished 3rd in the best and fairest. He walked into his new club and was appointed vice captain within a month. The other (who's actually older!) had played 50 games, never more than 15 in a season and was in and out of the team in a side that consistently finished in the bottom 6 in his time there. Dress it up how you want, and I'm actually not a Tim Lamb basher, but that is an absolutely catastrophic trade result.

Interesting all the love on here for Culley. I think he's shown a couple of decent signs, and probably shoudn't have been delisted by West Coast, but I'd be very surprised if he's in our best 22 when we're challenging again.

McAdam may be the nicest bloke in the world but right now the (effectively) McAdam for ANB trade goes down as one of the worst in AFL history. I'd have thought he'd be absolutely bending over backwards trying to rectify that.

Yep, possibly. Although you think that'd be more than offset by the increase in points they'd get next year for Walker from us compared to the other deal.

Yep it doesn't seem to make any sense. Norf are getting this year's pick 11 from Carlton with their pick 25 and a future 2nd. GC's first rounder and this year's pick 37 would appear to be more valuable than that.

Oh right. Haven’t seen that anywhere in the media.