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didnt you read my ins? it doesn't include Ben Brown. It includes Mitch Brown. Yep, i'm happy to cop being wrong on weideman but i'd still prefer him over Ben Brown and that's saying something. Ben Brown hasn't done anything in the seniors that warrants selection.

In: M.Brown, Viney Out: Weideboy, Sparrow. I personally don't think Ben Brown should come in. Has show sweet F all whenever he's come into the seniors and his lack of ability to provide forward half pressure hurts us even more. Also he lack of ability to mark makes Weideboy look like Wayne Carey. mitch Brown for me.

people say this yet put petracca and Oliver in our votes for todays game? Mind boggling. They turned it over time and time and time again. It's like a couple of confident Oscar Mcdonalds playing in the midfield. FFS.

What's with Kozzie zigging and zagging, dancing and prancing, goose stepping after goose stepping. Kick the fu$%^ing ball or get rid of it!!! Did my bloody head in today. And don't dribble it along the ground when there's opponents in the goal square. Use your head and keep your feet. No point being fast if you're on the ground! This is your personal rocket!

yeah, agreed. so how is May in the votes again? His number 1 job is to defend. he didn't do that for the reasons you explained.

How are people putting May in there after Darcy Cameron kicked 4?

petracca was a turnover merchant. he isn't getting in my votes. No [censored] way! 6. Lever 5. Gawn 4. Jackson 3. Rivers 2. Langdon 1. Salem I can't put Oliver in there either after that first quarter and put shots on goal which are always costly. W.O.G votes go to: 6: Weideman 5: Fritsch 4: Petty 3: Kozzie 2: Neale-Bullen 1: Sparrow

Oliver: Costly first quarter Petracca: Bloody hollywood handballs May: Got absolutely destroyed. Pickett: Slow 'the F' down. Mcdonald: 2 costly misses. Gawn: 9 HT hitouts Brayshaw: Stop kicking left Petty: Is no Tomlinson Rivers: At least he tried. Jackson: Early kicking errors. Fritsch: Costly kicking errors. Langdon: Had some glimpses. Harmes: Should've tagged earlier. Salem: Was unaccountable defensively Lever: Battled despite landslide. Spargo: didn't phase scoreboard. Hibberd: Didn't notice him. Jordon: unsighted 2nd half. Neal-bullen: unsighted 2nd half. Sparrow: Had no awareness Weideman: not 1 kick

would Oliver and petracca just get the ball moving forward instead of trying to side step every bloody time and getting caught? Frustrating and costly. Also, Tom McDonald, you're dead to me. 2 easy misses.

Doesn't matter. His complete lack of effort in the first 30 minutes set the tone for the rest of the boys and gave Collingwood a lift across the board. Not only didn't he work for the ball, he wasn't even within 50m of most contests. Not good enough and this predicament is not solely on his shoulders but largely on his shoulders as well as Fritsch's ball use and Gawn's lack of domination.

BLOODY HOPELESS MELBOURNE. Oliver: You set up this loss with your putrid first quarter. You're a leader and you showed complete lack of effort. Petracca: Hollywood handballs, terrible kicking. Getting smashed at clearances. Gawn: 9 hitouts in a half. not good enough. Can someone get on DeGoey!? Can someone get on Maynard!? Can someone get on Crisp?! Can someone get on Mihocek?! Can someone get on Hoskin-Elliott?! Can someone get on Pendlebury?! Can someone get on Noble?! Can someone get on Mayne?! Can someone get on Madgen?! HOPELESS! This is why I don't trust us. Regardless of what happens, we've shown we can produce vfl standard footy and amateur level defensive pressure.

good job Oliver for setting the tone in that first quarter. cost us the win

bloody hopeless. no defensive pressure. 11 guys without a tackle. lift u stupid morons

don't care. turned it over going inside 50m multiple times. ****house

[censored] hell Oliver. that was 30 minutes of dribble. no work rate whatsoever. he basically didn't even get to any contests. let alone win any. you owe us now

OLIVER GET INVOLVED!!!!FFS, THIS IS THE 2ND WEEK IN A ROW HE HAS PLAYED LIKE A VFL 2NDS PLAYER IN THE FIRST HALF. FRISTCH HIT A BLOODY TARGET GOING INSIDE 50! JACKSON YOU TOO. FFS. TERRRRRRRRIBLE QUARTER!!!

I'm oddly nervous about this game. I don't know whether it's the Buckley departure or the fact the we have an inability to blow games out. Or if its Jamie Elliott's recently found form. arggh

I really don't think we need an 'I told you so' moment. The I told you so moment is underperforming for 2 years straight with what many believed was a top 4 list and similar to the list we have now. I can tell you one thing, that wasn't Yze's fault! The success we have now only further proves just how poorly Goodwin was coaching the previous 2 years.

I'd rather sack goodwin and promote yze if im being honest. the improvement of 2021 seems to come directly off the back of yze and williams joining. With the same list it cant be coincidental.

umpires have been horrendous this year and have way too much influence on a game. I don't care how they're treated tbh.

I don't think anyone thinks paddy Dow is a remotely good player. He'll be out of the system in a year. But nonetheless I agree with your sentiments. Sometimes some players are just perfect fits for a certain side though.

we can't rest on our laurels. We need to keep bringing in guys that will help build our list. Let's not be naive by saying that we have no holes. We do.

People realise our first pick in the next draft is 30-something right?

Even when he asks Nik Cox on AFL360 if he'd found himself a girlfriend. No context to his question whatsoever, and not really relevant to him winning the rising star. Then he just laughs it off with a snorted laugh. Geez, he really needs to be off the tube.

so sad about his brother getting lost at sea too.