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I wouldn't be using the name Oscar alongside Trade wins. He has A LOT to work on.

Surely this thread is a wind up? There's more chance pick 31 will do more damage in year 1 than Watts doing much more than 12 possessions and a goal a game.

anyone know training times for next week?

Just a little draft talk summarised below: 'inside accumulator' = Slow and sh!t skills 'Outside wingman' = Soft 'Raw prospect': Skinny as a twig. See you in 5 years. 'Capable of brilliance': Inconsistent. 'Versatile': Doesn't have a position. 'Great left foot kick' = No right side. 'athletic midfielder' = Lacks footy smarts

Now I'm totally confused. All these demonlanders whinging about losing Watts and paying overs for Lever only for the results to show that they are happy with the trade period. wtf

I agree with what you're saying. Gawn was pathetic last season. Pathetic. He got beaten most weeks by guys that are arguably not even starting ruck men. I wouldn't mind getting him out of the media until he finds form. At the same time, his best is too good not to pay him big bucks for and pray that he pulls his finger out and stays injury free.

was rated by some as highly as Bontempelli in his draft year. But for whatever reason can't get it done. No idea why. Great skills, athletic band a proven player at under 18 level against guys who are now A graders.

best kick for goal yes. Best field kick probably not. I'd say Salem, Hibberd are Lewis are all better and you could make a case for garlett too. So this is 160 odd players that I rate higher than Watts. There is probably a few debatable ones but there's a truckload more that you could make a case for to be ahead of him also. Either way you look at it, we certainly aren't giving away a player that is top 150. I think 175-200 is about right. Geelong Danger selwood Hawkins Menegola Duncan Tuohy Henderson S.Selwood Gold Coast Ablett A.Hall Lynch Wright Lyons Touk Miller May Saad Adelaide Betts Walker Lynch Sloane Crouch Crouch Mckay Lever Talia Laird C.Cameron Jacobs Jenkins R.Atkins R.Douglas Richmond Martin Cotchin Houli Prestia Riewoldt Nankervis S.Edwards Vlastuin Caddy Rioli GWS Kelly Scully Shiel Cameron Ward Lobb Greene D.Smith Davis Patton Hawks Mitchell Gunston Burton Breust Hodge O'Meara Smith Roughead Rioli Sicily Port Wines Ebert Boak Ryder Gray Dixon Powell-pepper Wingard North Cunnington M.Wood Higgins Ziebell Tarrant Preuss Brisbane Zorko Rockliff Beams Martin Rich Frem Weller Blakely Fyfe Neale B.Hill S.Hill Mundy McCarthy StKilda Newnes Ross Steven Billings Roberton K.Stevens Gresham Membrey Carlton Gibbs Murphy Docherty Kreuzer Cripps K.Simpson C.Curnow L.Jones Weitering Marchbank Dogs Macrae Hunter Mclean Bontempelli Dahlhaus Johannison Stringer Picken Coll Treloar Pendlebury Grundy Adams Wells Sidebottom Howe Elliot Fasalo B.Reid Essendon Heppell Goddard Hurley Zaharakis Daniher Hooker Sydney Kennedy Franklin Hanneberry Heeney Lloyd Papley Parker Z.Jones Mills G.Rohan Rampe WCE S.Mitchell Gaff Shuey Hurn Priddis Yeo Kennedy Darling McGovern Melbourne Hunt Hibberd Lewis Oliver Viney Jones Gawn Petracca Pedersen Hogan T.Mcdonald Garlett

5 second mark of video (kick smothered), 50s mark (misses basic target altogether), 1.03m (way too much airtime and puts team mate under pressure)

stuff it, you got to risk it to get the biscuit. As much as jurrah was a failed experiment the enjoyment that he brought to us over a small period of time was so good to watch.

omg, what a buffoon. Why would you use 'best kick in the league' as a way to describe Watts? lol. How about a player who probably isn't a top 200 player in the league, came 21st in our best and fairest and has had 1 good season in 9 years to snare a young draft pick who is hungry and tackles well.

There's a difference between saying 'this guy looks good' and 'I think we should take this guy at 29'. Has anyone ranked the top 40 and have them in order or something?

No thanks. Kicking looks horrible. Horrible ball drop.

I love it how recruiters have full time jobs where they spend pouring over hours and hours of vision, looking at a draftees under 16 form, under 18 form, they interview them, they have psychologists providing feedback, they analyse their values/morals through a series of interviews, they analyse trends in their physical conditioning and find out as much as possible from external sources such as school teachers/sports coaches etc in order to make informed decisions and here we have demonlanders just jumping on youtube or reading a little player profile and thinking 'oh we must go for this guy or we must go for that guy'. Unless you've done recruiting work, I don't wanna hear about it.

would've liked to have gotten saad. dont know why we didnt as we had the picks to get him. happy to get watts out, even for nothing and didnt care that we paid overs for lever. to all the people that say they are p!ssesd off for paying too much for lever, i can only imagine you would be more p!ssed off if we said 'nah stuff it we'll go to the draft instead' and risk not ending up with lever. and don't mention all the psd stuff. its still a risk not worth taking.

There's a list of about 50 people on this site that thought Watts would still stay and this was all just deliberate commotion to give jack a kick up the backside.LOL! I would go back and list them all but, seriously, it showed a serious lack of understanding of how you value watts, what the MFC is trying to achieve and just the footy landscape in general. Embarrassing. 'Bring back Powell' you were a repeat offender. I also got shot down for suggesting a straight swap for pick 31. Well turns out I was right and i value Watts to the same degree as the coaches and footy department that know his deficiencies the best.

Why because Watts has been so good the last 9 seasons? Baffling

or he's finally had the power to get rid of him. i wouldve done the same if i had 1 day in power. how come in 9 years, he's never backed into 1 pack?

mind boggling to think that people are unhappy with this trade. look at the richmond and bulldogs premiership teams from the last 2 years, they had 22 players that bought in and had a crack. i wouldnt trust Watts to win a 1 on 1 contest against nikki webster. best ball user blah blah blah, the guy doesnt have a crack.

Because Port adelaide don't have a pick in the 20's. Pretty simple.

Just thought I'd remind you bobby of your post after I said pick 31 a straight swap for JW. All these deluded demonlanders over valuing jack watts and having no idea about the football landscape Pick 31 is fair.

pick 31 straight swap I'd say

If Watts stays Casey has a new forward flanker

thats one way of getting back into the first round

well pedersen then. basically anyone you put in there showed more promise. pedersen won several games for us this year.