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as far as i'm concerned all supporters who said losing Watts was going to hurt us should be banned from footy forums. fritsch's attack on the ball and man is head and shoulders better than watts and further highlights that you dont need a big frame to have courage

oliver didn't have a hard tag (if any) against the bombers. He just didn't work hard enough. I'm sure he'll bounce back.

I feel like this is a wind up. Oscar McDonald becoming an AA defender. Please tell me this is a sick joke? Is this coming from all the Jack Watts fans that said he was going to be AA this year etc. LOL. you guys have lost your marbles.

Guys that make stupid mistakes aren't AA defenders. Yes, you can get away with it in the midfield but you have to account for your field position when making decisions. He has terrible footy IQ. Thankfully he doesn't cross goals like he used to but like I said in a previous post he doesn't know when to rush it and when to play the boundary. He doesn't understand the momentum of games. He doesn't have awareness for whats around him. The only positive is that I've barely noticed OMac this year which is only a good thing considering the horrific things he can do.

Okay, I don't mean to pump my own tyres up but this statement has proved to be correct so far and any poster who suggested that we were going to be haunted by losing Watts should be kicked off this forum for not knowing footy. 'Vineytime', 'Picketfence', 'Treox' and about 100 other posters should be ashamed. It's supporters like you that we have a weak culture, accepting guys that squib the contest. Unless you guys are ecstatic with Watts' 14 possessions and 1 goal a game average in a team sitting % out of the top 4 ?

Oscar McDonald has definitely improved from last season. There's no doubt. However that doesn't mean that I trust him at all. He is still very weak in 1 on 1 contests and is prone to some brain fades and lack of awareness (much like his brother in his first 5 years at the club). Oscar has decent foot skills and I've been happy with his overhead marking so far but he needs to continue to keep it simple and not bite off more than he can chew. He doesn't show great footy IQ. He doesn't know when to rush the behind, when to play the boundary line etc. And you can't teach footy IQ. He also gives away silly free kicks such as pushing Daniher in the back when he has already run under the ball. This are all the things that cause me worry.

watts will be dropped from Port about the half way mark. Definitely just a fringe player.

lol Jack watts...has he got a hard ball yet in 2018?

Surely this thread is a wind up? There's more chance pick 31 will do more damage in year 1 than Watts doing much more than 12 possessions and a goal a game.

stuff it, you got to risk it to get the biscuit. As much as jurrah was a failed experiment the enjoyment that he brought to us over a small period of time was so good to watch.

how good does james worpel look not exactly the player we need but we will go for best player available. he looks just the type that jason taylor needs.

well considering I rate cyril higher than Lever. Lets not forget cyril helped hawks win 3 flags I'd go Cyril and every other player from 2007. so thats 10 combinations and then Dangerfield is also better so I'd take Dangerfield and any other player in 2006 so that's another 10 combinations. So that's a sub-total of 20, plus i'd probably prefer Docherty and Phil Davis so in total there are 21 combinations that i'd prefer over 1 jake lever.

We definitely bent over but I would've been more disappointed if we didn't get Lever at all so I'm happy with it. Adelaide are now my most hated team though. The way they acted in this off-season plus their pathetic effort against the eagles which kicked us out of the finals.

I believe they will be giving us a late first/early 2nd round pick back to equalise that trade LT

you can say that..if you think that oscar mcdonald is likely to win a friggin brownlow. lol! i'd say lever is a 95% chance of earning AA honours at some point in his career. Oscar Mcdonald 0%. if you want me to rephrase i'll say you compared Lever, 'a likely AA in the future, who has already made the AA squad, to Oscar mcdonald.

wrong. he has regularly shown to be a deer in the headlights and a poor decision maker.

If you're in the squad at 21/22 years old then it's fair to assume.

Did you just compare Lever, a future AA who has already been named in the AA squad to Oscar McDonald who so far has yet to prove he belongs on an AFL field? Yikes!

18ish? thats assuming we win the flag. i think pick 13 is closer to the mark. so it would be: out: pick 10 (this year), pick 13 (next year) jack watts in: lever, pick 18 (this year)

So i had a look at pick 10's in the last 10 years of national drafts, this is who clubs got: Chris Egan Marcus Drum Nathan Brown Dangerfield Phil Davis Melksham Gorringe Sumner Cockatoo Nathan Freeman Makes me feel a bit more at ease knowing that only 2 of those players (Danger and Davis) justified their drat position. So if we have to cough up more, so be it. Lever is a ready made gun for the next 9 years

I'd rather be a club of our word. We offered it so we should stick with it. We don't want to stoop to Adelaide's level. All the clubs are watching it too

watts and pick 10 to the pies for pick 6. pick 6 and 27 for lever. Watts is a glorified casey player so i think a deal like this is fair.

Its pretty easy. pick 10 and 27, take it or leave it. if we don't get Lever, so be it. We pocket the draft picks and enjoy Jason Taylor nail another top 10 pick!

Lever was one of their best in the first half. He did well and showed that he cared when he gave it to Townsend at the quarter time break. Beggers can't be choosers, we have Oscar 'deer in the headlights' Mcdonald at the moment for christ sake.

people do realise that lever isn't a great kick right? Frost/Lever/Both Mcdonalds/Vince...scare the bejeezus out of me!