11 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

Regardless of whether Trac has legitimate complaints about the club, and I am sure he does by the way, are you really ok for him to trash the club publicly? Because his teammates sure aren’t. 

This goes against everything a good leader would do. You don’t turn your entire team against you in some deluded effort to force change. Because now the only change that’s being forced here is getting rid of Trac. 

To think Trac's name was being thrown around at one stage as future captain material.  I'll wait until the dust has properly settled until I make my final judgement, but I'm not looking favourably on his performance at the moment.

Contrast Trac's public actions over the past few weeks with that of Gawn and Viney and you can see who the real leaders are at the club.

Probably leaves Jake Lever as next in line to the captaincy IMHO.

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

If you can't see the difference between KPMG and a football club, I'm not sure I can help you. Can't remember KPMG have 90K fans cheer them on when their annual financial results were released. The emotion in footy is why we love it

Spotify on DubDee this is a point that those that suggest footy as being just a business really need to wrap their head around it alot better.

Sure there are some business principles that need to be applied to make sure the books ballance, but it's a 'business model' built on people's passion and loyalty - stuff around with that too much and they might find their revenue streams evaporating.

I do have to say that the way that the best seats at the MCG are sold for our home games to the exclusion or regular MFC members is something that's seen my enthusiasm wane, particularly thus past half season when we have started loosing again as well, as have the cold late night game timeslot that's great for the TV business, but not for me.

Back on the ANB aspect, I do think that if players are going to request trades like this and/or be militant about it, then the club's should have better mechanisms to claw back player payments etc retrospectively.  There needs to be a better disincentive for the players to demand breaking contracts.  But as I've stated elsewhere, in the case of ANB, I think he owes us nothing and helped deliver a flag for us.  And he's going home, not demanding a move to the Magpies, Hawks or Lions for more money or other opportunities.  I think the club gets better rep and ability to attract and retain good players, by treating the ones we have well, reasonably and fairly. 

2 hours ago, Adam The God said:

He's a right footer though.

Yeah, so maybe he needs a challenge?

You get double points kicking on your non preferred don't you?

On 21/08/2024 at 13:52, WalkingCivilWar said:

But for mine the most important reason is this: win or lose, if the boys see and hear us thereby knowing there’s a lot of love and support despite the terrible season we’ve had, it will take them into the the off- and pre-season with so much more belief and confidence and that will go a long ways in our 2025 campaign. How do I know this? I just do. 🤨

Listened to one of Max's interviews on the club Web sites post signing interviews and he reflected back to our finish of the 2020 season beating GWS and Essendon and how it gave us something to build on for 2021.  I was at Carrara for that game and remember thinking that we weren't as far off as people thought either.  Incidently @DubDee, ANB had a cracker that day, but was a frindge player at the time and many would have been happy to delist him for nothing, just to free up a list spot, so I hardly think he owes the supporter base anything.

I'll be going tomorrow night with both my kids, the youngest of which is a BBB fan and has the number 50 on his back, which he will be wearing with great pride.  I'll also be thankful to ANB for his great service to the club and with Trent Rivers 100, there are plenty of reasons to attend.

Above all else, I really hope we give Collingwood the end to their season they deserve and given we are on dead even percentage, we'll also finish above them on the ladder for good measure.

GO THE MIGHTY DEMONS!! ❤️💙❤️💙❤️💙

The other thing that riles me so much about this whole Trac injury saga is how Scott free Darcey Moore and the AFL have got off on this.

Protecting the head is well understood and is know a given, but we've now seen several players seriously injured through knees driven wrecklessly into others with careless abandon.  It's not a football action and it should be outlawed, just the same as sling takles and head high bumps.  If you carelessly throw your body parts at another player that could be reasonably foreseen it could cause injury - suspension, easy.  Chol on Steven May was similar.

Trac's mum needs to go and tell Moore's mum, that if he ever does that to her son again, she's going to deck him.

On 20/08/2024 at 10:26, Ted Lasso said:

One thing i would say is i really don't see the issue in Alister Clarkson naming Jack Viney, he was very complimentary, i am sure Jack wasn't offended by being considered a culture shaping leader by a 4 time premiership coach. 

by this stage of the year clubs know players are coming and going long before the media do. 

I think the timing was also very poor. Everyone allready getting the boots into Melbourne about Clarry, then Trac.  The Todd at North angle also probably also added credibility and made it even more of a story.  I'd be filthy on Clarko if I were Todd, even though maybe it might have resulted in a few more $K being thrown Jack's way just to be sure and perhaps get the deal done quicker.

Love Gary's defence of our club.  I'll take Gary Lyon over David Schwartz post retirement any day.  David is always banging on in his criticism of our club, even though from what I gather of his influence on club culture was probably a contributor to us never snagging one in that era when we had so much talent.  So glad it was Gary got to hand over the cup to Gawn and Goodwin.  I think he walks the line between objective media outsider, club great and passionate supporter pretty well really.

Seems like the first 100 have come up in no time.  Could potentially become another 300 game champion of the club.

Would really love to see him used in more attacking goal kicking roles rolling through from midfield and letting his raking left foot set sail for home from outside 50.  Is a perfect give to handball for players from a stationary position/fee kick/mark 55m out as well and would like to see him do more of that.

20 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

It was to be clear, we have not found a CHF or FF on a consistent basis.  
JVR is young and we will persist but he needs to take the simple marks (dropping most marks at the moment). Petty is not the answer.  Schache is not the answer. Tmcd is not the answer.  Turner was good v Tigers but likely is makeshift (he’s really a prototype Lever interceptor). Jefferson is young and not developing as we would like.  Brown is on last very last legs.  

We are competing against teams with quality key forwards Curnow-McKay, Daniher, Cameron-Hawkins, Hogan, Mihocek.  

Yeah, I kinda get that too.  It would be nice, but perhaps unrealistic to expect JvR's development to be linear, when KPPs usually take many years to mature. 

And I am still also somewhat juries out on if Petty is a key forward.  He played a few dominant games last season, but also alot when he didn't have much of an impact.  I do suspect that he's the type of player that might take a number of weeks to find form as a forward, so let's wait and see.

Until then, we just need these players to provide adequate output that enables our game plan for multiple other players like Fritsch, Kozzie and others like perhaps Disco and Chandler to come in and kick their bags when the opportunity arises.

14 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

B: Lever, May, McVee
HB: Rivers, Petty, Bowey

C: Windsor, Viney, Langdon

HF: ******, ****** Neal-Bullen

F: Fritsch, ******* , Pickett

FOLL: Gawn, Petracca, Oliver

IC: Howes, Sparrow, Chandler, *******

SUB: ******
 

still searching for key forwards 

JVR is jumping a lot but has dropped 90% of his attempts. We will keep him in at the promise of better times.  
BBB is physically not up to week by week footy.  Save him for September?? 
Petty is not a natural forward and lacks confidence.  We are trying to turn a premiership defender into a patchwork forward. 
TMCD looks more comfortable in defence but so did Petty and Petty makes less mistakes.  
Schache was very soft and shown he’s a VFL quality player.  
??? Jefferson is in development but looking very iffy right now.  
 

others have not yet cemented places.  Salem started ok but was poor in games before getting injured. He will be back and in but I’m looking for huge improvement in him across pace and skills. Sparrow lacks pace and is not a half forward. Bench player on rotation. Chin is in and out.  Up and down. Bench at best.  Howes is versatile  and will be a player.    Billings is ok.  Just ok.  Woey jnr needs more games.  
 

options.
Mcadam once fit can play half forward and kick goals.  We need more firepower.  Yes we will try Disco Turner.  Love his attitude to compete.  
AMW must be given a chance soon.  
Tholstrup is not ready yet.  More VFL time.  

Gee, that ****** we've found at CHF is a gun.

IMHO no team in the AFL has a flawless list or * power in every position.   It's about making what you've got work.

This Facebook post from Everything Hawks that I just saw made me smile with satisfaction:

"Can’t stop, won’t stop 💛🤎

It may have just been North Melbourne, but boy does it feel better being a winner come Monday 🔥🤝"

Guys in the video clip is going off in celebration as well.

https://fb.watch/rDnkmy_Y29/?mibextid=Nif5oz

17 hours ago, monoccular said:

Kozzie got two (or was it three) round 1 2023 for a zero impact impact.

 

And Kozzie also got a week for the Adelaide thing for less than Greens act.

Green jumped, his shoulder made high contact with medium impact - that's about the logic that got applied to Kozzie.

Additionally, Green can hardly use the Charlie Cameron (I'm an angle that's never offended before) [censored].

See ya later Toby. 

BTW, I like Green, but after seeing Kozzie go for what he did, I've got zero sympathy for other clubs loosing players to the tribunal for high contact... I just wish they'd hit that scum Maynard with an 8 week retrospective ban a few games out from finals.

On 14/04/2024 at 23:53, dee-tox said:

Steven Icke and Anthony Ingerson were two that immediately came to mind in defence.

Ingo was a gun.

A few others we picked up from other clubs in that era went all right as well:

Peter Rohde

Marcus Seecamp

Can one of our sponsors please pay for Jason Taylor to have a holiday in Ireland over the Australian summer?

3 hours ago, deanox said:

Scott Thompson?

 

I read an analysis last year that actually highlighted how rare any "return from Victoria to interstate" trades were, especially for first round picks.

Jackson is a genuine outlyer. Most are lower draft picks who don't make it at their original club and get shuffled home for a second chance (like Jimmy Toumpas).

Jessy Hogan also says hi.

How good is it to see a No.39 in the Red and Blue out on the G again!!!

3 hours ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

The MRO needs to be a panel of people, not one bloke who has shown himself to be inept. I would also be comfortable if the AFL said, he will have a 3 man panel deciding each incident and there's no tribunal option, their decision is final. It's the AFL's competition they can suspend anyone they want, why does there have to be tribunal involved if they have a panel who can discuss and make decisions.

Yep and keep those mongrel lawyers out of it all together.

3 hours ago, binman said:

see the low impact argument, but I'm OK with koz getting a week, not for the bump, but for raising his elbow.

Yes he only glanced his head, but I'm in the factor in the risk of injury camp. If his elbow had, say flushed his temple then some real damage could have been done.

That's not how the tribunal saw it though, they said he elected to bump didn't they?

And sorry, but I see an elbo raise, a conscious effort to bump or anything.  It happens in a split second.  He didn't line him up and follow through like Plugger.

In reality, I don't really think he did either.  He was contesting the ball, was a split second late ...and he jumped.

The AFL needs a new rule - no jumping.

Like others I'm so frustrated at the lack of consistency from with the AFL.  They seem to grade impact level on consequence (i.e. is the player concussed or not) for everyone else but us.  The guy got straig back up imeediatley and wasn't anywhere near needing a concussion test, let alone being subbed out (or knocked out cold for 5mins per Gus).

Kossie is a huge loss to our side.  We have him Rd 0 in the tropics and we might have even won that game.

39 minutes ago, Brownie said:

It's only leaving the ground to smother that appears that somehow now appears to be dangerous?

And.... Then Kozzies submission was that he leapt to catch the ball in the air, not smother or spoil.

Which he is entirely capable of doing.

They wouldn't even let our expert testify!

And argued for 90 mins about this instead of just letting him speak.

Don't tell me they don't play favourites.

Yep and if Kossie had taken the ball, kicked it up feild and we goal, it's probably play on and considered a football act.

...I'll add that Fox Footy's reporting on this incident has been as disgraceful as the tribunal's handling of it.  They have been gunning for Kossie to be suspended from the start and the suckers at the AFL have been more than happy to play along.

Just look at the below sensationalist headline for a recent example:

‘I’m scared of training with him’; Demons superstar defends Pickett after another ban

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/melbourne-demons/im-scared-of-training-with-him-demons-superstar-defends-pickett-after-another-ban/news-story/b26f75a9c6d0204e9117ce44627119f9

Pretty clear from reading that Trac is scared of getting caught from the awsome chasing and tackling defensive pressure that Kossie applies rather than being physically scared for his wellbeing.

So f###ing angry at this suspension.

Look at it in real time and it's nothing like the Maynard thug thing.  He converges from the side and glances him. The action never had the same potential to do injury as Maynard did, because he wasn't charging straight at him from the polar opposite direction.  Our defence was totally valid, he never lined him up, didnt elect to bump the player, the time he has his arm tucked in for a split second and flys across the front of him, barely brushing him.

It was low impact and wasn't a bump - please change the thread title accordingly to "Kossy glance on Soligo". 

From the reporting I've heard of it, the contemptuous way the AFL tribunal dismissed our case against is a disgrace.  I bring back the example of Chol from a few weeks back where a 6'10" 95kg giant planted his knee with the monentuum and full weight of his body, right into the back of his opponents head at the point where the spine meets the scull, which is apparently ok, because it wasn't a 'bump'.  These people are a joke and I'm sick of our team and our players being their play things and scape goats.

Lol.  Love your work Andy.

Part of me just wants to jump in that DeLorean and dial up till the part on GF day at The MCG, where we are 40 points up and pulling away from our opponent - but then it's all about 'The Journey' 

Do expect Brisbane will be hard to beat as they are essentially playing for their season at this point, but I'm encourged by what I've seen from us so far this season and think some of our players have got more gears to change up too.

Looking for us to keep winning and building in the first half of the season, keeping a fit list well managed and then perfect our game and make our run in earnest in the run home.

1 hour ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

 

 

Trac: "He doesn't like Collingwood, do you?" - Gold.

22 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Not implying anything about your personal habits @Rodney (Balls) Grinter. I just find Kayo a diabolical piece of Stih.

Ok, yeah I've had the occational minor issue with Kayo, but on the whole I find it much better than it was paying through the nose for the footy on Foxtel.

16 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

How did you get Kayo to work?

I dunno?  It just did - am I missing something?

I was up in Brisbane and the game had already finished.  I wasn't that drunk spilling the red wine everywhere if that's what you're inferring - I'm just naturally a bit ditsy and uncoordinated!!

12 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

My Favourite

• Put $5 on WC beating us when we meet them

 

Big spender - go hard or go home!

(Not that I'm a gambling man or endorsing that discusting industry)