Rodney (Balls) Grinter
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6 minutes ago, sisso said:
Wonderful news, I really couldn't see a way we could have "won" if he'd left...Goody has the best Melbourne list to work with in a long time that's for sure!
Yes, even if we got an early first round pick, what's the value in that if you can not retain them once they actually become dominant players, rather than just players with high potential. Incubating players for other clubs like we did with Scott Thompson and $cully is a no returns game.
I just hope we can lock in the gun group of young mids we have coming through like Pratracca, Brayshaw, Oliver, Hunt and Co when it comes time.
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In the Fairfax papers trade article today:
"Convincing Jesse Hogan to open negotiations on extending his contract beyond the end of next year is the biggest priority.
Michael Gleeson"
I couldn't agree more. Great move by Jesse and the club unless there was a Dangerfield type player up for grabs in the trade period, retaining Jesse is so much better than anything elese on offer.
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Great article on the Jones brothers on the Fox Footy page:
Captain Courageous, Nathan you are a class act and hopefully your day will come soon too.
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1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:
A candid commentary on proceedings: http://www.foxsports.com.au/news/afl-outsider-brett-geeves-on-brownlow-2016-red-carpet-and-dangerfields-victory/news-story/0316816b9091aa53377a0a5aef9fabef I think we would all agree with this:
"..And then there’s the Brownlow Medal. — the award for the best and fairest midfielder of the season...The biggest test in this theory was Round 20 when Melbourne beat Hawthorn and Max Gawn got the two votes with Jack Viney collecting the three.
I haven’t seen a more dominant ruck game than the masterclass Gawn put on that day...He was the reason Melbourne won that game and it’s disappointing that he was not rewarded with BOG honours. It only furthers the perception that this is an exclusive midfielders award'.
Seriously, I wonder if the backchat Max gave the umpire (forgotten which game) when he belted the ball away after a bad centre bounce and the umpire challenged him with 'what did you do that for' and Max said 'because its my job', cost him votes thereafter. Wouldn't put it past them!
Oh, there is a delightful video in that article of kids interviewing some places...Lily interviewing Max is priceless!
You would hope that it wouldn't, because I thought that incident was well with 'the spirit if the game' ... But then, as you point out, they are umpires.
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3 hours ago, Rafiki said:
They need to shorten it by half an hour bare minimum, the amount of ads is ridiculous. Instead of doing a highlights of every round they should just do it for 2 rounds at a time and I think it would almost be watchable then.
I fell asleep from about rounds 8 to 19, it was that interesting. Missed Jimmy's award which was a little disappointing.
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1 minute ago, Bay Riffin said:
disgraceful along with the incredible amounts of ads and cross promotion. Gill was racing through them like he was on speed. ridiculous pace.
Did they have him drug tested?
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2 hours ago, Ted Fidge said:
Is it Gil reading out the votes?
CarltonJBloggsonevoteFremantleFNurk2votesAdelaideBSmith1voteGeelong ......... P Dangerfield ...... 3votes
It's like he knows something.
I found Gill's vote reading was atrocious and hugely disrespectful. The way he raced through some games like they were meaningless was a massive insult to those teams and players awarded votes in those games.
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Sorry if I'm repeating others here, but does it make me a sadist if I really want to see a photo of Tom $cully crying?
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18 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:
Agree, bur Spencer is unfairly maligned on here, never let the team down when given the opportunity
But if we are going down that path, not sure a VFL ruckman is the 'instant' answer, and there is not much out there, in my opinion
Some have mentioned Minson, he is playing VFL for a reason, we will see how he goes against Pencil and McInerny this weekend
Spencer certainly doesn't let the team down with his effort or agression, however his foot skills and footy smarts do from what I recall watching him at AFL level. That said, bar the Geelong game (in which he actually looked OK), pretty much every other game he's played in I recall at AFL level, the whole team played like crap and that's always a hard environment to perform in.
I defiantly think he's worth holding on to and thought that the club should have played him a few times this year to help him develop, but also give big Max a bit of a chop out. I'm a bit concerned that Max is going to get burnt out doing it all on his own, particularly against two genuine ruck types most weeks. I also don't think it's good to use Jack Watts to relieve in the ruck on a regular basis, although it is useful that he has now developed a bit of a capability there now and perhaps it might help his physicality and combativeness in that regard to jump in there every now and then.
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One about Max, not by him:
"He's all of seven foot tall and about ten kilos of beard"
Some special comments from Alastair Lynch during game comentary.
Long live the beard. Perhaps a few more of our players should do some beard work in the gym and put some weight on there like Maxy.
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As an asides (which I think could describe this whole thread anyway), has been great listening to all the commentators talking down Hawthorn's mid field depth over the past few days, with the highlight being when Jonathan Brown stated that the cracks in their invincibility started to show when they were convincingly beaten by a young Melbourne midfield in Rd 20.
I do find it amusing how fickle commentators can be when at the start of the season they were all talking up the Hawks great depth, development and how they had this next wave of young stars coming through, but now they see worrying signs on the Hawks talent.
We are yet to see how far and how fast the Dorks fall, but for the moment, I'm enjoying the fact that they have fallen off their high, aragent perch and the likely prospect that they will fall further.
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51 minutes ago, Jumping Jack Clennett said:
I was very impressed with"SOS"s form yesterday.
I'd be very surprised if he's not upgraded next year.
He looks to me as if he could be a very useful contributor to our backline next season.
Could he play midfield?
His attack on the ball, his decision making, and his disposal all impressed me.
I was a great admirer of his dad Shaun's guts, standing his ground in "the hole" to be crashed by the likes of Lockett.
Shaun Smith, like another brave Demon hero of mine, Steven Icke, was a fantastic transfer from North.
I'm so glad we have Joel as a Demon.
As an aside, the current Hawthorn coach is another that could be added to that list. Was not an out and out superstar, but a very serviceable player for us none the less.
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In his press conference, Clarckson said that everyone at Hawthorn would be happy if they finished 18th if Jarryd Roughead got his health back (well that's all I recall of his presser before I fell asleep - literally).
I think everyone in the football world would be happy for both of these events to come true.
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4 hours ago, sue said:
Not a word of criticism from the TV commentators of what a poor effort the Hawk's leaders did in the second half. Cyril (who I like, but hate the way they fawn over him) had only about 3 possessions (that I recall) and 2 of them were turnovers, but the commentators made it sound like it had nothing to do with him.
Yet had they won, it would have been this old guard of Leiwis, Hodge, Burgoyne, Mitchell, Gibson that the commentators would have lauded as ageless superstars.
I actually think that the writing wason the wall for these guys back in rd 11 when we played them. We had the better of them in general play and if it wasn't for Gunstan kicking 3.1 and a few other toss of the coin opportunities, we would have won that game. In our second match-up, their old guard practically disappeared and only Cyril kept them in that game (similar to last night). All of a sudden, this great depth and wave of young talent that Hawthorn had doesn't looks so good either as it's far easier for average players to look good in great sides.
Whilst our respective seasons both died somewhat inglorious ends, the underlying reasons were different and the two teams are heading in different directions.
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38 minutes ago, ickey_11 said:
Actually the commentator said that he should have said that, Max actually said "I was hitting it back to you".
Regardless of what he said verbally, his awesome fist away and body language certainly said " bounce it properly then ".
Was a great bit of theatre in the midst of an enjoyable win against the filth. Added some nice icing to the cake along with Max's other non verbal statements that day.
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Just love Big Maxy's persona and thought that he needs his own topic to make sure we never miss a giggle from the gems of humor that seen to pop out every second sentence.
So here is one to start things off, as reported on the Fox Footy web news page:
Via Hawks duo Isaac Smith and Josh Gibson during the night, Frawley apparently said Gawn’s head would’ve “gotten quite big quickly” if he had taken out the Leigh Matthews Trophy.
Big Max’s rebuttal, however, had Frawley covered.
“Old Chip Frawley, hey? Well Hawthorn has to play a 17-man defence because Chip doesn’t defend too much anymore,” Gawn said.
I'm not sure it's right up there with his absolute best work, bid did like that it gave Frawley a well earnt sledging.
So what else has the new mouth from Melbourne put out there?
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With all the talk of us being such a young side this season, the addition of Melksham and Hibberd would increase the average age/games overnight. Not sure how significant that is though if they can't play at the required level, as adding Dunn, Garland and or H would have a similar statistical effect.
When adding just two players has such a significant statistical effect, I do wonder if this stat/claim was over played a bit by the club this year?
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On 23/5/2009 at 0:07 PM, A F said:
My girlfriend's Hawthorn, but she's not all that passionate, so when we make our climb up the ladder, I'm hoping she'll jump ships.
She will however be wearing her Hawthorn scarf, when we go on Sunday.
15 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:My wife's a Hawthorn supporter. Had the gall last year to tell me that she's bored of the home and away season as Hawthorn just win all the time- finals are the only thing that interest her. I cried and vomited at the same time.
Our son's a Melbourne supporter- signed him up in the hospital the after he was born. In return she chose the name, school and religion.
Yes my wife is also a sunny day Hawthorn supporter.
All I can say is how sweet was Rd 20.
Looking forward to a period of sustained success over those horrible poo brown and yellow jumpers. I feel our list is headding in the opposite direction to theirs, even if they get O'Meara, Vickery and others. The old brigade of Mitchell, Hodge, Lewis and Gibson that were somewhat holding their team together are past it and I really don't think their next bunch of replacement kids are all that flash.
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Great result and another great ambassador of the club.
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Hiring a proven coach with excellent credentials, who promoted a sound, basic, build from defense up approach to football, recruiting competitors with good character, along with engraining solid team first, winning culture - I'm not sure I'd call that an experiment as opposed to a well trodden path to success.
I just hope this path continues uninterrupted under Goodwin, which I have reasonable confidence that it will. A bit of luck wouldn't go astray either, we are overdue for a bit of that.
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6 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:
What would Robert "Tulip" Flower think of this...
No wings on The MCG????
reduce the interchange further. That is where the problem lies
Agree.
Perhaps it's just nostalgia, but for my mind, the best modern footy was played in that 80s/90s era, with two or three on the bench and limited (but not subitutinal type) interchange. Current coaches complain that it would "slow the game down" and that players would "burn out in the fourth quarter" - my personal opinion is that's crap:
1. Players and teams would need to relearn how to 'pace' them selves so as to leave them selves more in the tank at the end of the game. 1500m runners don't go out at 400m pace for the first lap.
2. Would result in more true one on one (not 5 on 5) contests to move the ball down the ground;
3. More true lead up and one on one power forward/key back type contests at either end of the ground.
4. Still plenty of scope for different sized, skilled and athleticly talented players to play different roles and parts of the ground.
This is the way Aussie Rules was meant to be played. If limited rotations failed to bring the desired result, I'd also actually be in favor of introducing further zone rules in general play, beyond the current centre square one we have now.
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6 hours ago, DavidNeitz9 said:
Can B Stretch also add his name to the list to become the second father son Bluey?!
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15 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:
Petracca asked where (position) he'll be playing later in his career. Andy says: Say Carlton mate! Christian: Nah sorry, Melbourne for life
719Love it.
I remember that slimy little turrd $ulley saying a similar thing, but my impression is Trac has got so much more character and integrity than him.
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10 hours ago, A F said:
As I said last year, it's a nothing award. I can understand supporters caring when there's little to cheer about, but the skies look blue and our list is genuinely exciting. It doesn't matter if they didn't poll well in the Rising Star. I don't think any of them deserved to anyway.
Disagree with your last statement, but otherwise on the money.
Personally, the award I hope the poll much better in is the Norm Smith in a MFC premiership team - everything else is pretty much rubbish.
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Jesse Hogan re-signs to end of Season 2019
in Melbourne Demons
Posted · Edited by Rodney (Balls) Grinter
If the Bulldog's had their handball club, we should start a goal kicking club.
Can be lead by Jack Watts, with Christian Salem as VC. If all of our players could kick for goal like those two boys, then our conversion will smell like pure roses.