Rodney (Balls) Grinter

7 hours ago, CanberraDemon said:

I hope so. He's one of the loosest backmen in the comp and this would leave Jack to roam free and do Watts he does best!

Perhaps, but Howe also knows where to go to get the ball and gets pleanty of it.  I'd almost be tempted to play Watts on Howe in a defensive forward role and let Howe lead Jack to the ball.  I think they'd be well matched athleticly (except for aerially) and if Watts were to play it well, it could really come off for us by taking their best defensive play maker out of the game and getting our best attacking play maker into the game.

Hogan and Pedo could provide the main targets up forward and could be less impeded by Howe if Watts can do a good job on him.  Barring Watts, I think either Melksham or Harmes are the match-ups we should be targeting for Howe.  Hassel the F#@$ out of Howe and make the slimy turd doublely regret leaving us for that filth.

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

Who are they going to put on hogan, Pedo, watts, trac???

win it in the middle.

Game over

I recon Howe will take Watts.

4 hours ago, Vogon Poetry said:

Just watched Goody's presser.  I've never known a coach to say nothing so often. 

Not that I care. 

4 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

I might be in the minority, but I like that. He can pick his moments in the media, otherwise just play a straight bat and do the talking behind the scenes and on the field. 

Love his segment on the MFC site Simon's selections  http://m.melbournefc.com.au/video/2017-08-24/rd-23-simons-selection.

Punchy and too the point.

It took me a while to warm to this segment and Goodwin in general after Roos and his equivalent segment "Roos Views".  I'm guessing Roos had to do a lot more talking and external perception management than perhaps he would have ideally liked, due to the nature of where we were comming from on-feild over his reign.  Goodwin is at times almost blunt with the media, without being a complete a-hole like someone like Malthouse was.

Just showing how much things have changed in one or two seasons, love the fact that we are approaching Saturdays game as favourites before going into finals with the expectation that we should win and secure a definite finals spot.  It is dangerous for us to be favorites I know, but it's still poles apart from us being rank outsiders and with only a remote mathematical chance of scraping into the 8.  The opposite matchday result of last Rd last season is what we want.

Awaiting Saturday's game with real excitement and atisipation.

GO DEMONS.

6 minutes ago, binman said:

Goody had this to say about Jack today:

"Clearly there's a lot of hysteria around Jack and how he's performing, (but) he's improving," Goodwin said on Thursday.  

"His two games at VFL level show he's progressing and he's performing now to the level that we think is really appropriate. 

"We're really hopeful that Jack is continuing to improve and we're looking forward to seeing him play his best football shortly.

"I've said this a bit and I'll say it again, because it's clearly something that's not getting through, Jack will be treated like every other player on the list."

As someone said about him being dropped there is n mystery.  he was out of form. Got dropped and now is back. He would have to play a howler not to get selected for the finals.

But if he does have a howler i have little doubt he will be dropped. So perhaps from the perspective of being at risk of missing finals you are right and it is is his biggest game. but i can't agree that it is therefore a career game. 

So how about i amend my comment to partially mistaken. 

2 hours ago, Wrecker45 said:

Jack Watts has the opportunity to be a legend of this footy club over the next two months.

don't fear for him, he haas played 150 games, his time is now.

Agree with all the aforementioned, with the exception that Jack Watts has an opportunity to become legends for the club over the next 2 - 6 years (as do many players with his potential on our list).  Let's face it if we hope to be a good team and play dominant seasons, finals and grand finals in that sort of period, then it presents a lot of opportunities.  To gauge a player's ultimate value to the team simply on what they produce in the next few weeks is foolish in the extreme  (not accusing you of that Wrecker).

I often think our expectations of players are unrealistically high.  There are few players in the history of the game that have gone through their careers without some kind of form slump and very few key position forwards that have been dominant players early in their career.  Again if we are realistic, Jack Watts is not really a traditional key forward and will probably never be a bone crunching courageous marking type, but he has the potential to be an extremely damaging player in his own way through his elite feild vission, feild passing and shots on goal.  Whilst he has let us down with perceived effort/courage on many occasions during his development  (and even some recient history), he has also stood up on many occasions in big moments and been a match winner in games.  As we improve as a side, I think life will actually get easier for Watts and as well as him gaining in confidence and understanding of what it required.

For this week, going his on the contested possessions, tackling and report/MRP that he has produced at Casey, he clearly has the intent back and that combined with Jack Watts playing at even half his potential best is better than what either Wagner, Stretch or Hannan have produced in recient weeks.  The up-side to Watts far surpasses any of the aforementioned.

1 hour ago, Dee tention said:

Have to give to get.

Frost (or 2nd rounder) and 1st rounder should land Lever.

I like Frosty. But cant break into best 22. Tommy and Oscar are keys for the long haul.

I can see Frosty at an Adelaide or Bulldogs.

Probably belongs in the Lever or other list managment thread, but no way I'd give Frost and a 1st rounder for Lever.  No way I'd give up a 1st rounder altogether for Lever either.  We have fairly solid key position and other backline players as it is, when you consider we have the two Mc Donalds, Frost, Jetta, Hibbard, Hunt and possibly Salem in that group.  I don't know what the facination with Lever is in that sense anyway.

I really think we still need a few more quality mids to replace the aging Jones, Vince and Lewis.  Unless we could somehow snag a bargin ready made player, I actually see going to the draft to target quality genuine mids as the way to build our list in future years.  Sometimes you can get lucky with late picks, but I really think that there still has to be some correlation with low picks and ultima quality/ability  (i.e. Clarry, Judd, Hodge etc).

3 hours ago, DemonDave said:

From the thread title alone, i thought it was the early betting odds for this week's game!

So did I.

Apparently those are $2.40 for Pies

6 minutes ago, Nasher said:

We're not allowed to win the flag this year. A mate of 20+ years has organised his wedding on Grand Final day. Who does that?!

Purposely oppted for a first WE in October wedding for that very reason a number of years ago (plus not wanting distracted guests).

This year our anerversary falls mid week closest to the GF WE.  Hawthorn supporting missus wants to have a WE away for the anerversary, so I stratically pushed back the WE away to the one after the GF.

7 hours ago, beelzebub said:

website ?? ...Parallel dimension !! 

Take me to that dimension @Clint Bizkit.

How much drugs will it take though?

On the one hand, I hate loosing with a passion and take significant displeasure in this continual development focus talk, where the coaching staff seem less worried about individual win/losses etc as opposed to developing players and team culture, but on the other hand just making finals doesn't cut it as season defining success either.

I watched too many good, but not good enough MFC sides make finals through the late 80s, 90s and early 2000s, only to never deliver a premership for the club, that just making finals means next to nothing unless we have a team that delivers the next flag.  Whilst I'd never write us off winning a flag, based on the best we've been able to produce this year, on current form I'm not convinced we will go deep into September should we make it.  That could quickly change if we get in the grove over the next few weeks, but realistically I think that’s a bit of a long shot.

If we don't beat Collingwood and WC beat GWS, we don't deserve to be playing finals anyway.  Unless we go all the way, anything in between is just an indicator of where we are going as far as I'm concerned and making or missing finals is neither success or failure as far as I'm concerned.

 The last thing I want out of this last rebuild is a teams like North and Freo have been over the last 10 - 15 years, making finals, but never good enough to win a flag.  It's pulling in a flag sometime in the next 8 years that says our season has been a success.  I think Roos and Goodwin have that mentality and I'm hoping like hell, Goody and the team has the ability to deliver it. 

So Yes make finals and Undecided (read neither succeed or failed) just on making finals for me.

20 hours ago, rpfc said:

We also were able to isolate him. Pack marking he doesn't do.

If we are to do any damage in any finals series in the era of Hogan - it will be a forward line that gets him one-on-one more often than not.

No doubt his and the teams efforts to create space for Jessie was part of the story, but I get the feeling watching his marks/goals from the Lion's game that their backs played incredibly loose on him and I hardly recalled him being double teamed all day.  I also hardly remember a day where he has kicked so straight, not a numpty one off to the side all day (I was almost waiting for him to miss a sitter from 25 out).

Fully expect Dunn to scrag the heck out of Jessie and Howe to come third man up on him all day against the Pies.  

Really do think Watts back into the side will complete our forward line, they can't hold all of our guns at once.

14 minutes ago, loges said:

We were sitting behind the players bench, he came off at least twice complaining of a problem around the knee area.

Oh dear, that's not good news that we really want to hear.  Despite my tongue in cheek rant, T Mac is a pretty important player for us when he's up and about.  Even before this season when he has been a revolation up foward, he has been one of the best KP backs in the league for a number of years and I normally value his impact down there.

11 minutes ago, Redleg said:

We needed him more than Wagner yesterday. Wouldn't have thought Wagner was anywhere near it yesterday as well.

Agree.  I like Wagner for his effort and toughness, but being of limited raw tallent and lacking other weapons like Frosts pace, he does need to bring his A game to keep his spot in the side.  For the past two weeks, he has looked lost and out of place.  His wasted hack kicks in our forward line yesterday were embarrassing.

Replacing Wagner and probably Stretch with any of Salem, Watts or Frost automatically makes us a better side next week.

11 hours ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

Hey steady on Balls, don't question my commitment. You have no idea about my circumstances and I'm a full member who gets to as many games as I can, which is plenty. 

 

My apologies brother Deemented, I was only stirring the pot.  Happy to hear that you are a full member and as I live interstate, I have no doubts you get to mamy more games than I do.  Personally, I do generally like to at least watch most games live on TV, though I missed the GWS game a few weeks back due to work comments (not that missing that game was any great loss).

Perhaps I should have put a few lol's or something into my posts late yesterday,  no one seemed to read things on the lighter side.

12 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Well that was T Mac's worst game this year by far.  Can't kick, can't spoil, can't mark, didn't look like he wanted to be out there.

Don't even think he is tradable material on the basis of the game he played today.  Jack Watts has more currency on today's effort.

11 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Adelaide lost to North.

GWS lost to Carlton.

Geelong lost to GC.

Richmond lost to Fremantle.

Sydney lost to Carlton.

Essendon lost to Brisbane, Fremantle and Carlton.

Port's the only side not to have lost to one of the bottom 5. In fact, they've only lost one game to the bottom 10 all year, and that was to West Coast. However, they've only won one game over a top 8 side and that was Sydney in Round 1 which doesn't count for much these days.

Classic Demonland.

TMac has his best ever season, plays one bad game and now couldn't even be traded if we wanted to trade him.

@Petraccattack @leave it to deever @Clint Bizkit

'Classic Demondland' was mostly what I was aiming for (with sarcasm intended).

I thought that Mac did play a well below average game for his standards though.  Thought his intercept marking was down and that he got stitched up early by the Lions young forward (who did look like a fairly handy player).  The rest was pretty much me taking the Mickey, because I thought T Mac's feild passing was pretty solid, I don't think he really turned it over at all and perhaps the way the Lions attacked it wasn't really a tall players game in their forward/our back half.  T Mac just didn't have the kind of influence that we've become customed to.  I do wonder if Goodwin could have done more to bring him into the game, as he can be such a weapon for us, but then again Pedo was doing ok in the ruck as were he and Jessy up forward.  It does make me wonder how we ballance our forward/back six in the next few weeks, as Frost and Watts clearly add something to both ends when they are in form.

In all honesty, wouldn't trade either Macdonald in a thousand years as even Oscar has matured and become pretty reliable of late and if he fully develops into anything like he's brother strength wise will be an absolute machine with an additional 4 or so cm height on Tom and these two playing together will give us a pretty solid KPP bedrock over the next 5 - 8 years along with our other stocks in that area.

21 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

6 - King Pedders

5 - Hulk Hogan

4 -   Milkshake Man

3 - That Jones Boy

2 -  The Hibberdnator

1 -  "Please sir, I want some more"

 

 

Your 1 vote made me think a bit, but I got it in the end  lol

5 hours ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

So....

As my wife and I fought our way through IKEA this afternoon with 2x cranky two year olds I was checking the scores every minute or two. The battle we faced dealing with lollygaggers, rubberneckers and just plain [censored] stupid people in the claustrophobic throng was nothing like the enjoyable Scandinavian utopia I was hoping for. 

Judging by the score line, our anguished shopping outing seemed synonymous with whatever was happening at the G today. 

Next scorecheck, we were kicking away (so I thought) to a four goal plus lead. By the time I got home they had it back to 7 points. I couldn't do it and turned off my phone. When I turned it back on, a dramatic message from a mate describing the shitfullness of the game made me think we'd lost. To much relief, a final scorecheck said otherwise.

bloody hell, I'm totally drained! 

The burning question is watch the replay or not?

Please cast your votes here....

 

oh and GO DEEEEES!!! 

Walking through IKEA when with our whole season on the line?  Where's the commitment?

All Demented and no go!  

And I thought I was under the thumb... (sorry dear, I know I am, just don't want to admit it in public!)

2 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Hes been great up forward...allowed at least one shocker.

Nup, no room for him down back, has already been replaced as the MFC supporters punching bag by his brother.

See ya later T Mac.  Winter isn't over yet'S Frost will be back next week and you will be kicking the dew at Casey Tommy. 

3 minutes ago, Deestroy All said:

Brock could probably carry Pedo's bags. Gizz would struggle to lift them. 

Brock isn't worthy of carrying Pedo's bags.

Well that was T Mac's worst game this year by far.  Can't kick, can't spoil, can't mark, didn't look like he wanted to be out there.

Don't even think he is tradable material on the basis of the game he played today.  Jack Watts has more currency on today's effort.

24 minutes ago, Go the Biff said:

He's been given a much less "delicate" nickname by a bunch of blokes behind me at the footy today (funny buggers they were too)

I assume one of them was @Clint Bizkit because according to them, Pedo's new name is.......................

 

Brownlow

I recon they would  be pretty good odds doe him to win too.  Much rather Pedo than Dusty, but  

Pedo would have too many votes taken off him by Oliver, Viney and T Mac to be any kind of chance anyway.

16 minutes ago, Chook said:

It's time for the return of the greatest statistic in footy: The #Pedomyths win percentage comparison.

Since R1 2016, we've won 15 games and lost 8 with Pedersen in the side. We've won 7 games and lost 13 with him out of the side.

So over the last 43 games we have a 65% winning percentage with Pedersen in the side and a 35% winning percentage with him out of the side.

Except you need to change you hashtag to #Pedofacts

Go the Bear, GO The MIGHTY DEMONS!!!

15 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Was today his best game for the MFC?

The stakes were really high and Cam stood up tall. 

Keep going Pedo..

gives his all...

Yep, he was pretty  F###ing good.  

But he was also pretty fu##ing good last year Vs Hawthorn.  Just imagine if he had played  against the Carlscum?!

Anway new year, different propersition all around.  Let's get the job done properly next  week against The Filth, don't want to give them the satisfaction of beating a top 8/finals side in the last round and I'd  much rather the Tigers first up.

So where was the "AFL"s all away jumpers need white BS today?

WHERE

WHERE??????

IF ever there was as clash with our proud RED aND BLUE jumper, then today was it.  Yet the A?FL alower Brisbane to wear ('gasp') no white???!!

NO WEARING OF WHITE NON MFC JUMPERS FROM THIS POINT ON.

Its the emblem of, the team we love, the team of the RED AND THE BLUE!

6. Jessy !!!

5.  Jessy's surgon;

4 .  Jonsey (did everything when the game was up for grabs);

3.  Hibbard;

2.  Jetta (best game in a while);

1.  Gus (who said he wouldn't make it back) Brashaw.

4.1 PEDO - can't believe I forgot my new favorite player.

Have never felt so good about a 15 point win against the wooden spooners!

GO The MIGHTY DEMONS !!##!!!