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I believe that Riv was sent back to Casey because the coaches felt other clubs played through his opponent, he was a bit loose. I would imagine that when he tightens up his game he will go back to the AFL.

Two things. Weid lacks balance and core strength. He falls over or slips on numerous occasions and is pushed out of the way by smaller players. I'm not sure if he has ever had a course in Pilates but it may help both issues, particularly his core strength, I remember Andrew Leoncelli was involved in Pilates and he went ok and was very strong in the contest. There is no doubting that we want him to succeed and I'm sure that it's not for lack of trying that he's not, in fact I think there's so much pressure on him he tries too hard.

Why? They are a manufactured team with no history, hardly any supporters and the supporters of other clubs couldn’t give a stuff about them. The AFL has gifted them a really good list, a couple of times, but we got nothing when we were struggling. So for the sake of TV rights they have done whatever they could to give them success As a Melbourne supporter, why is is important they are a contender? Would you be happy to see them beat us in a GF.

Can we rename this thread? It’s a pain to open it up and there’s just endless speculation but nothing concrete. Maybe change the name of the thread to speculation about Luke Jackson.

At a club function for the foundation heroes, before the game. I was fortunate enough to be there, seated at the same table as Brian and Terri-Ann Stynes, Brian gave a very emotional speech about Jimmy, ten years on from his passing away.

It's usually the [censored] from within that brings an organisation down. It will be very difficult for some of our players to play in the same team as others, especially those that have been denigrated by more senior players. The question I ask is why? We've taken over half a century to get to the power house we once were and in a flash we start to tear it apart.

We should sack May, if he said the things he said he must have been thinking it for some time. how can the boys have faith in him if he has that sort of view. We were dispirited today and our cohesion was gone, we are going to struggle to stay in the top 8 this year and all the adverse publicity we've received and May's comments are taking their toll. Also, Tracc has to decide if he wants to be a radio and television star or the best player in the comp. And I don't care about the walk and chew gum crap, I believe it's affecting his performance, unless there is an injury he has we aren't aware of.

I sit in the Legends area first level up and right next to the MCC area and the area there is pretty much dead. I believe the members are discouraged from making excessive noise and the other side of where I sit is the President's lunch attendees. I went to the Presidents Dinner of Saturday and there seemed to be a lot of Swans supporters there who got a lot noisier as the game went on. The point I'm trying to make is there is very little noise from the MCC members area and the Legends, Presidents lunch/dinner area which takes up most of that side of the ground. Now settle down WCW, I'm not having a go at the Cheer Squad this is just a general comment. I was at the end nearest our cheer squad and I couldn't hear them during the game but I could hear the Swans cheer squad as clear as a bell. I could also hear the Swans Supporters that sit next to the Dees cheer squad in the Shane Warne Stand. Apart from amplification I don't know what the answer is. Those that sit in front of the Presidents Club area are a mixture of home and away and neutral supporters, we don't have many that sit in the AFL area. You can't make noise if you are in there MCC members and those that are in my area are supporters and their guests and they are not going to make a [censored] of themselves if they have a client or guest with them. We don't have a Cat man or Tiger man and no one seems stupid enough to dress up as a Demon, we are not that type, some supporters put money in and some find other ways of doing things like joining the Cheer squad or volunteering. The way the seating is configured it makes it hard to get all our members together and we just have too many conservative members. I guess if you want to have a noisy Cheer squad, join the Tigers or Collingwood. Our supporters don't hang over the fence and threaten the umpires or have brawls after or during the game, so I guess I'd rather have them than a bunch os supposed dedicated supporters that really only go for the Booze and a Brawl than to watch the football.

I sit in the legends area and there is a young guy there that gets us going, he turns round to us and starts us going with the Melbourne etc. I pretty sure he can be heard round the rest off the ground, he is that loud, he's been going to the games for years and even in his younger years he was very vocal.

On the issue of attendance,. I was told by a club official that we were expecting a crowd of a bit over 20,000 but not much and the AFL had anticipated less that 25,000. I reckon we would have had a much better crowd if we'd played it over there.

I was at the GWS game at the G last year and in the first 3 quarters it was like a practice match and it was only in the last quarter that I realised we had somme supporters there. By then, of course, it was too late and even though we lifted we fell short. We don't make a lot of noise and I'm not sure why, I yell out a but but I'm just one voice. The Dockers fans made a lot more noise that we did at the game the other day and they had the chant going once they got in front, our supporters don't seem to have a chant, other than Melbourne clap clap clap.

Was there that day as well, didn't know who he was at first, thought he was there to give out oranges to the players at the break.

Old Dee is soft, just kidding. I’m as old as anyone on this site and I drove to the ground, parked in the car park in Spencer street, cost $20 and you are a five minute walk from the gate. I hate Marvel and knew it would be a crap game but went anyway. Even took my partner and she knows nothing about football, one of the things we have in common. Sometimes we have to put ourselves out to show the boys we care.

Pretty much agree with what you said there, they knew they wouldn't win so the played us hard and close. BBB was harassed when he went near the ball and just couldn't get in to the game. They were very physical on the night. I went to the game and sat near the goals and because it's such a [censored] ground, I couldn't see beyond the middle, after the game I thought we were pretty ordinary but after watching the replay I thought we were OK,. We do seem to play a better brand of football when we play against a good side, they are trying to win whereas North were just trying to limit the damage, they have quite a few physical players. I've followed the Dees for many years, around 70 and I don't think I've ever seen a player as good as Clayton, he is just relentless, he just fights for 100% of the game to get the ball, I loved Robbie but they are different types and played a totally different game.

The AFL is going to have to do something, North are just not up to competition standard. And yes, I believe he is.

I remember when it was reported Dennis was appointed and I thought it was a joke, turns out I was right.

The Coach is only as good as the players under his control, West Coast have, like many clubs beforehand, thought their nucleus of top end talent will last for ever, see Geelong. You have to continually go through a renewal and I think we are, we have a lot of younger players and continually recruit their replacements, the big problem is that generational players like Max, Tracc and Clarrie only come once every so often. I hope Simon coaches us for another 10 years because if he does it will mean we are winning, he wouldn't hang around if he wasn't the right person for the job, he has too much integrity to do that. I think he will still be there as long as the three mentioned above are. For the conspiracy minded I'll kick it off. He only signed for two years because the jobs been offered Ooze after that He only signed for two years because they are going to appoint Dogga as captain coach for the next 10 years

Simon Goodwin's contract extended until the end of 2024

I remember when we'd go ballistic if we even altered the shade of the colours on the Jumper, we've come a long way. Just my opinion, the short sleeve looks so much better than the long sleeve.

There was a player in the 50's and 60's called "Big Bob" Johnson and he player in 7 Grand Finals for Melbourne and won 5 of them. He also topped the goal kicking twice and was a giant of a man (198cm) in that era, just like Max is now. Not saying he was better than Max, but you have to consider his record. Team of the century, Hall of Fame, he was a demon great and his father played for the Dees as well. He went to play with Oakleigh and he was great value to watch there he was so big they couldn't' get round him, a lot of the oldies on here will remember him..

I'm taking the opportunity to watch some of the floggings we've handed out recently, currently the GWS game. I'm just glad it's happened when we were playing good football, imagine if it was in the middle of our one or two wins a season.

Thanks for your thoughts. I had a test this morning and I'm waiting for the results, but I had dinner with one of my sons last night and he's off to Hawaii this afternoon so I got couple of RATs and did two both showed positive. I've told him and he's not feeling great about it. So far I've had worse colds that this and certainly "Man Flue" is far worse.

Went to the game on Sunday night, I was invited in to a club function and got a dose of covid there, there were a couple of coaches there and Robbo was the MC (?) so maybe that's where it came from. Watching the game I was seated next to one of the club Directors and he may have inadvertently contributed to the outbreak. I woke up in the middle of the night last night, with the sore throat, headache and runny nose, no big deal if that's all it is. I had a "close talker" having a chat to me and wouldn't be surprised if he spread it to a few there. As a matter of interest Lyndon Dunne was sitting in front of me and he was stirring the pot when a few Tigers fans were leaving, giving them the wave goodbye, they bit and were having a go back but Dunney just kept right on waving. There's no doubt where his allegiance lies.

Simple, extend the bench to 8 and then we can fit them all in.

Weid kicked 4 goals 3 points had 11 possessions and 7 marks Curnow and McKay kicked 5 goals 1 point between them and had 11 marks between them Most on here have written Weid off, and he has now shown that he can play at this level. I understand that it a small sample but he has shown what he is capable of. Let's hope he backs this up next week, he could turn out to be a very good player for us.