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The facts are: Since it all hit the skids, out of our last 34 games, we have won only 11, and lost 23. Of those 11 we have won, we won 5 of them in a 6 game stretch this year. (this streak covered over the cracks) We lost 5 out of our last 6 in 2024. We started 2025 with 0-5. (that was 1 win of the last 11 then). We have lost 7 out of our last 8 games, including the embarrassing capitulation v STK. In the last 19 games, we have 7. We won 5 of them in a 6 game stretch this year. All this with a fair chunk of premiership players playing, a very good injury list which we may never see again. I don't know how many reviews, learnings etc we need, these are the facts, it just isn't working. It also doesn't take that long to implement a new game plan, that is a cop out. What KPI's does "the board" need to see? It's all there in black and white. It's not just Goodwin, but the results are in and he doesn't have the capability to turn it around, the message is stale.

I did find this funny amongst all of the pain!

I think we need to get used to the fact that Peter Jackson is Peter Jackson, Guerra won’t even come close, we’ve just got to hope he’s better than serviceable. We have major “football” issues and he doesn’t have any experience with AFL. Going to be interesting.

I think if it happened two years ago it would be a knee [censored] reaction, but there’s plenty of evidence to suggest that if he were to go, there has been a big build up to this point.

For some reason you want to continue the player theory on the coach thread so I’ll ask this, if the players (which are partly to blame) got such an easy well paid gig at the Dees, then why would they want to jump ship where it’s harder?

I just don’t see how Goodwin can continue when you look at it from a whole. How many reviews and promises do we need, now there will be more. He’s had his chances to rectify post 2021. Richardson will be a scapegoat but if Goodwin remains the same will continue. The whole FD needs a clean out including the coach as it’s clear that we can’t trade players out on massive long term deals. First mention I’ve heard of sponsors too which isn’t good but understandable, people need to remember it’s a business at the end of the day and if you’re not performing then you start at the top.

*managed *rested *injury But would be funny!

Nice day for some volleyball I suppose...

On the other hand, we have pretty much had a full list this year, easy fixture and great run re injuries, often fielding a team with 15 odd premiership players. Add in Windsor, Langford, Turner as well for promising youngsters.

Why does the coach keep playing them then?

I think he used to be an outstanding tap ruckman, however not for a while (few years), compare what he was doing in 2018 v 2025. Perhaps it's to do with him changing the way he plays (ie; he doesnt jump anymore). At the end of the day mate, bit off topic for both of us as its the Goodwin thread and not about players. He will still go down as a great regardless of any of our opinions at the end of the day.

It's very quiet out there on the news front considering the board meeting and FD presentation, no leaks anyway yet.

The key word, was tapwork..... For eg; on the weekend, 45 hitouts, 14 to advantage. Cant knock his around the ground domination one bit.

I find it very disappointing Layzie, I'm no expert but you'd have to think these review would cost somewhere in the 7 figures range, we have and are going backwards and the guy is still employed as a consultant all while this is happening. Feels like its not only the coach who selects a job for the boys each week, but its happening higher up too, Jones and Green included. We arent a wealthy club so when we make these decisions, they need to count the first time. Bring Jackson back, he was respectfully ruthless.

Jeez, I remember listening to this on the radio and remember it clearly, horrible.

How many reviews have we had or need now? seems like we have had a few.....yet we go backwards, something has to give, well multiple things. @Macca If Yze had to "call the shots" then that doesnt speak highly of the coach does it. Also, if the players are lazy, then why does the Coach keep playing his favourites? Also, we were having a lot of the same issues with Yze and before his too. @Dr. Gonzo Nailed it.

Green isn't cut out for his position IMO. And I thought that before this waffle.

All my research says it wasn't a recommendation, its only you saying this hence me asking, anyway all good, was just wondering that's all.

Out of curiosity, could you provide where the review mentioned he had to coach from the bench? It's an odd recommendation.

@rpfc I'm pretty sure it was you who questioned this a year or two ago?

We were still having a lot of the same issues with Yze there to be honest.

It is currently a shambles - club wide, across the board.

I think Max suggested it was in the second quarter mate, he mentioned it in his interview.

Yep i think you are right. However you just cant see the game from ground level, which may be a part of the reason he is slow to adjust. I agree he is doing his best, but IMO he is a limited coach and needs everything going right. We have how many reviews since the review! Senior players are ruling the roost on gifted and ridiculous long term contracts as well. And I'm all for shaking their hands (and Goodwins) and starting fresh with the young group we have. Trade in some good leaders

I very much doubt the news stories of Viney, Petracca, Oliver & Pickett in the media before the season helped our onfield form this year either, just another way of viewing it.