SFebes

Hows his form been at VFL?

We lose no matter what. Both players dragged the club through the media last year, for whatever reasons, but it isn't a great look that they wanted out so hard and so openly. Pretty much our two best players is not a good look for the club, nor is it for attracting other players in either. If we trade them, we have to continue paying their ridiculous salaries, for two people who are turnover merchants. Mess.

He's the spin master. Can't believe people have been so gullible.

The facts are the facts, competitive football side? C'mon Simon.....

The facts are: Since it all hit the skids, out of our last 34 games, we have won only 11, and lost 23. Of those 11 we have won, we won 5 of them in a 6 game stretch this year. (this streak covered over the cracks) We lost 5 out of our last 6 in 2024. We started 2025 with 0-5. (that was 1 win of the last 11 then). We have lost 7 out of our last 8 games, including the embarrassing capitulation v STK. In the last 19 games, we have 7. We won 5 of them in a 6 game stretch this year. All this with a fair chunk of premiership players playing, a very good injury list which we may never see again. I don't know how many reviews, learnings etc we need, these are the facts, it just isn't working. It also doesn't take that long to implement a new game plan, that is a cop out. What KPI's does "the board" need to see? It's all there in black and white. It's not just Goodwin, but the results are in and he doesn't have the capability to turn it around, the message is stale.

I did find this funny amongst all of the pain!

I think we need to get used to the fact that Peter Jackson is Peter Jackson, Guerra won’t even come close, we’ve just got to hope he’s better than serviceable. We have major “football” issues and he doesn’t have any experience with AFL. Going to be interesting.

I think if it happened two years ago it would be a knee [censored] reaction, but there’s plenty of evidence to suggest that if he were to go, there has been a big build up to this point.

For some reason you want to continue the player theory on the coach thread so I’ll ask this, if the players (which are partly to blame) got such an easy well paid gig at the Dees, then why would they want to jump ship where it’s harder?

I just don’t see how Goodwin can continue when you look at it from a whole. How many reviews and promises do we need, now there will be more. He’s had his chances to rectify post 2021. Richardson will be a scapegoat but if Goodwin remains the same will continue. The whole FD needs a clean out including the coach as it’s clear that we can’t trade players out on massive long term deals. First mention I’ve heard of sponsors too which isn’t good but understandable, people need to remember it’s a business at the end of the day and if you’re not performing then you start at the top.

*managed *rested *injury But would be funny!

Nice day for some volleyball I suppose...

On the other hand, we have pretty much had a full list this year, easy fixture and great run re injuries, often fielding a team with 15 odd premiership players. Add in Windsor, Langford, Turner as well for promising youngsters.

Why does the coach keep playing them then?

I think he used to be an outstanding tap ruckman, however not for a while (few years), compare what he was doing in 2018 v 2025. Perhaps it's to do with him changing the way he plays (ie; he doesnt jump anymore). At the end of the day mate, bit off topic for both of us as its the Goodwin thread and not about players. He will still go down as a great regardless of any of our opinions at the end of the day.