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If we have absolutely zero chance of getting BH, which sadly know I think is the case. it would be great to see something like this: Trac, 24, 35 (Oliver) & 42 (Worth about 1161 points) for 7, 8, 15. (pick 15 is worth 973 Points) Gives us 7, 8, 15 and 27 to take to the draft. Not Ideal considering the draft quality, but at least we clear the list of drama/distraction & large restrictive contracts. That draft hand could potentially land us: Josh Lindsey 8. Sam Grlj 15. Lachie Dovaston 27. Latrelle Picket. Replacing the butchery via foot of Oliver and Trac with the elite usage of Lindsey and Grlj would be a massive step towards improving under Kingy. Adding The two small forwards will also greatly improve our forward pressure and scoring power. Might line up something like this: This is the most skilled 22 the Dees have seen in a long time. Also loads of pace in this side which is required in modern footy. A very young side but it would be super exciting to watch! Stage 2 is continuously reaching out to BH and making it clear we will be coming for him again next year.

Have to make it worth while to GC though. This would be a huge result for us.

To be fair, he was sub effected in 50% of his games this year. He can play, but he is no Humphrey alternative.

Well.. If it was up to me I trade him to the Dees for a future 4th. And throw in Ben King! 🤣 I agree though, it makes the most sense to trade to us, but its BH that's decides.

To who though?! 🤣

Yeah I get ya, my comment was just a tongue in cheek dig at the "Nepo Babies"

There's is absolutely nothing "natural" about the way they built that list. Or the club as a whole 🤣

The issue with uncontracted players is that they have the leverage to walk to the draft. In this instance they don't have that leverage due to WC and us both being ahead of Freo in the draft order. like you said, 12 is probably a little overs for Judd, but we should be ruthless here and demand pick 12 ends up with us if they Freo want him. Judd is screwing us here, there is no other way to look at it. Id rather make an example of him and ruin his plans then buckle on this one.

Yeah I know mate, we got an end of second round pick for him. Send that pick with Judd to Freo for 12.

Give them Judd and the Spargo pick for 12.

We should tell them immediately that its 12 or nothing..... We are ahead of them in the PSD, so we can just draft him again and he can play for Casey for a few years.

GC don't want or need picks. They want players and we have the best one available. Having said that, this is a Baileys decision and unfortunately we are probably the least attractive to him at the moment.

Trac for Bailey straight swap is a win for us IMO. Look at it like this.... In 2014 we draft Petracca at pick 2. 👍 Trac goes on to be a 4 time AA and play 212 quality games.👍 Trac helps win the drought breaking flag and wins a Norm Smith Medal. 👍 As Trac is about to turn 30 (and past his prime) we trade him for a 21 version of him self. 👍 Bailey potentially plays 10-12 years (200-250 games) for the Dees with an enormous ceiling. (hopefully some silverware) 👍 In essence, that original pick 2 gets us Trac and Bailey, both in there primes and gives us 25 odd years of high end midfield talent. 👍👍 We also have the benefit of clearing space on the our cap, getting rid of a player who doesn't want to be at our club, and setting up our midfield for the next decade with Koz, Humphrey and Langford, XL, Windsor etc . Getting another early pick back in the trade would be awesome but its a pipedream. The only way that happens is if we offer future firsts in return. If we are lucky enough to get Bailey to choose us.....Take and run!

I disagree on Clarry, he has value IMO. And if other clubs don't agree then Id rather keep him then give him up for nothing. Either way that's just 1 of the options I listed. if we get the other to we are laughing :)

Here are the stat comparisons at the same age. Very similar. The reason Bailey isn't getting full time mid minutes is due to the surplus of mids they have on the GC list. Anderson, Rowell, Miller, Flanders, Fiorini, Swallow, Ainsworth have all been sharing midfield time over the past few years. Bailey just happens to be the best of the lot up forward. He is on track to stardom.

Its pick 26 (27 now) that we already own & the Spargo compo (I believe end of 2nd round) & Mcvee for 12. Not May the player, but what ever return we get from trading him out. + Clarry and F3 for 13. Also, like I said, we can swap later picks and whatnot to smooth these over if required. this was just a hypothetical starting point. Finally, I rate Judd highly, people here have short memories. He was really good in 2024 as a 20/21 year old. He is a significant loss IMO.

As much as it hurts to let our favorite flag heroes go, this could be our chance to set ourselves up for the long term without spending 3-5 years of gathering top end picks at the bottom of the ladder. Langford, Windsor, Koz, XL, Bowey, JVR, Riv, Culley, Luker, Kolt, Disco is a solid group of young players. Add Humphrey and 2-3 more young guns to that group (before Tassie comes in) and we would have more than enough to get this list looking very promising. We also need to bring in this young talent whilst we have a good chunk of leaders and senior role models for them to learn off. We can’t afford to end up like we did in late 2000’s or how North has been for the last 7 years! Gawny, Lever, Viney, Mcdonald, Melky, Langdon, Mihocek, Salem, Fritsch, Sparrow, Chandler & Petty is a solid group of senior leaders across all lines that can usher in the new wave. I don’t personally see all of them as best 22, but most have something to offer us due to their experience. To bring these youngsters in we need to say goodbye to some value/stalwarts; May is not only almost finished as a player, but I don’t really believe he is no good for our culture moving forward. Tmac offers more both on field and as a leader and role model for youngsters. So overall, I don’t think his departure hursts us at all. Thank you for the epic 4-5 Seasons Maysie, but it’s time to move on. Get whatever we can for him. After last year’s tantrum and this year’s request to bail on us, I think it’s best if we let Trac go and get the best we can for him. Can’t say I am happy about it, nor am I happy at how he has acted the past 18 months, but he has value so let’s cash in while we still can. Clarry I would be happy to hold onto, but it sounds like Kingy has a plan and he isn’t part of it. It will be super hard to see him line up for another club, but a fresh start is probably needed for both parties and there is no denying he has had a bigger part in our recent dramas than most. The one that really hurts IMO is Judd, I saw him as a long-term top 10 player for us and I’m frankly [censored] that he has bailed on us after we took the chance on him as a rookie when no one else did. Here is my dream scenario (more picks can be swapped back and forth to smooth these over, but this is the gist of what I want) Trac & F1 for Humphrey and pick 6 26, Spargo Compo and Mcvee for 12 (Freo) Clarry (and contract), May pick & F3 for pick 13 (GWS) Total result for Dees 2026: Out: Trac, Clarry, May, Mcvee, F1, F3 & Pick 26.(big contracts and a few late picks) In: Humphrey, picks 6, 12, 13. Mihocek, Sinema, Kalani. (Money to spend moving forward) If you told me 12 months ago, we would lose Clarry, Trac, May and Mcvee I would have said close the bloody doors! But if we manage to pull off something like the above it would certainly give me some excitement and optimism for the future. This may all be a pipe dream, but it was fun to hypothesize.

Getting Humphrey to the Dees has 3 boxes we need to tick off. 1. Trac commits to GC (Tick) 2. Humphrey commits to Dees (Pending) 3. Negotiating with GC on the trade details. (Pending) Stage 1 is locked in, if stage 2 happens (The hardest part IMO) I believe stage 3 will be straight forward. We just really need to do whatever we can to convince Bailey we are the place for him to thrive / get paid! 🤣

Get It done Dees!

One of them is probably Dimma.

Yeah that's true from the GC side of things, not from Baileys. We need him to pick us before anything else matters. Fingers crossed!

I hope so. Because that's all we have over the other 3 clubs sadly.

Finally some trade goss involving us that's exciting! Bit over the doom and gloom Dees news of the last few off seasons.

Flanders would be a nice get, but Humphrey is on a another level. If he is even remotely a chance to leave GC then we need to move heaven and earth to get him. Harvey Langford, Bailey Humphrey, Kozzi Pickett, Trent Rivers, Caleb Windsor, Xavier Lindsey, Koltyn Tholstrup and Jai Culley should be our midfield sorted for a decade with 4-5 of them with potential to be absolute superstars. Most of them are good users of the ball and they are also a very versatile bunch of kids, all of them can play either forward, half back or on the wing when not in the mid rotation.

If its GWS then pick 12 is a start but not enough. We should reach out to Darcy Jones, we are short on pacey small forwards and the kids a little ripper.