Previously known as LITD.

No it's not. Used to enjoy it during the old VFL days but with so many interstate clubs, it doesn't really work anymore It's wonderful for League. I've been a N. S. Welshman for 14 years since moving from Melbourne town and I'm still shocked every year how big s o o is here. But while Nrl may have a few distant club locales it just isn't the same of the truly national game that is Australian Rules. I can finally enjoy NRL but it's not the same as AFL. It's more like soccer. Occasionally exciting. But AFL is much faster and has more skills involved. Tackles.... Speckies ......around the corner goals.....running.....leaping...hand passing. There's so many more skills required and involved. It's more democratic..... Spargo tackling Mason Cox. AFL will always rule and be the number one game and our national sport simply because it's just a more exciting game. Since we have the Eagles. .. Freo... Sydney...gws.....GCS .. lions.....we don't need s o o.

It's had its day.

Absolutely Mr leg. Plus they gave us Grundy who was a dud as a fwd. But they are truly a packet of low life thugs. Moore looks like he belongs as an extra in a Hitchcock film. The Daicos lads are academy award candidates. Maynard needs a muzzle. The fans need rabies shots and I hope one day soon the umps give us just a fair go against them and the playing field is level for once .

Your right but it's sad given who his dad is. But looks like the club is not only prepared to make the hard calls they are to their credit doing it.

I had forgotten about that Indeed a sad day for millions but so too for the club.

Your definitely onto something here DZ. Very insightful post. You don't always say a great deal but I've noticed when you do, it's always on the $. There was an incredible espirit de corps in 2021 . A real team of mates and blokes that had each other's backs. Guys who would celebrate every players acts and seeing them come down onto the ground smiling and enjoying themselves expecting a win was truly a sight for the sore eyes of us older supporters. Almost a distant memory now and we need to get back to that sort of confidence, cohesion and celebration amongst the lads. It won't be easy with leaders like May and Tracc gone. And , as you mentioned... Gus. I think the latter along with Nibbler apart from being solid players were very well liked and their company enjoyed by their teammates. We are almost starting a rebuild with all these players gone and it will be very tough to get back to the morale we used to have. But with Maxy still at the helm and a few others around him, there's still a decent amount of hope. Cheers.

Look it's definitely not ideal he's leaving but let's face it in terms of form, his has dived totally. A few glimpses of the champion of yesteryear this year but again nowhere near the player he used to be. I'm somewhat conflicted how I feel. Part of me hopes a great deal he rediscovers his mojo providing it's not at Cwood or geelong. As a player, at his best his talent is enjoyable to watch probably at times by opposition players. He's not freakish type talent like Kozzie but he is the penultimate workhorse and ball magnet with the greatest symbiotic relationship in the comp with his mate Tracc. I get that since Gus is no longer around that left Tracc not so committed and with Tracc gone the same for Clayton. Shame to lose Tracc though as he still has plenty of good footy left in him and could have been a captain candidate. But Oliver could have handled things differently as the club has definitely helped him out. But it's a two way street. He's definitely helped out the club especially being an integral part in winning a long awaited flag. So let's all just call it a draw and hope good things for him and us. Time to move on and hopefully up.

Not a rumour....Baily Smith is a silly person and a few other things. He's a solid player we should def consider for the right $

Not a rumour....Baily Smith is a silly person and a few other things.

And so graceful and balletic under water. Big and fat but almost as fast as kozzie heading towards goal.

The club owes him no favours. They have been very patient with him. I don't like the criticism of him though. The media is full of nuffies. Let's just hope the club stands firm and does the best for itself and Clayton moves on and is happy elsewhere. And the moron who was handing out contracts like life sentences is kicked up the ......

The media talks about non bullying but love to put the boot into anyone.

Geez I can't believe he has seven years left on his contract. He was a fantastic player but you don't give anyone that sort of time.

I think I probably speak for not a few about Tracc and Oliver not playing for us next year. Part of me is frustrated that they could both return to form and we miss out on it. Their not exactly old for AFL players and just a couple over what I consider the prime years... Circa 25/26. Very grateful to them for being a huge part of our 21 success but partly annoyed with their apparent lack of sticking by their mates and club./ Although in Oliver's case it seems he's been somewhat forced with the prospect of being in the Magoo's. But a little miffed if honest if they simply don't want to play for the best club in the comp. As good as they've been they have been paid exceedingly well and given very long stability with their contract lengths. Maybe Tracc wasn't treated as well re the whole Moore incident but I don't really know all the ins and outs around it all So I guess on balance, I lean to being disappointed in them both. Anb moved for family reasons so that's different. Others have taken off for more cash. It's a job...I get that. But I do doubt the moves are $ motivated. So at the end of the day given they are both contracted........it's shows a lack of trust and possibly loyalty. I'm not sure if this feeling is right ( given how good they've been for us) but footy brings out strong visceral feelings and this is where I'm at Hopefully, we are well compensated and pick up some solid mids from somewhere. But Oliver showed some glimpses of his brilliance this year as did Tracc ( mostly in different games) and they have been guns.

He managed 22 games last year. Must be fit. But certainly no spring chicken. So I hear you. Let's hope your fingers work.

I vehemently disagree with this statement. Yes Goody was way off to play Petty fwd for 2 years who managed under a goal a game. Yes that's correct.....a season average over two years by of les than a goal a game from our tallest fwd. He did help out in the ruck a bit but wasn't very good. And for his athleticism and height he barely took any contested marks. He just doesn't have the core strength for the role. But we had a player in Fritta whose form like Milks would wax and wane ( more wane) with the latter starting the season relatively late. Kozzie understandably played more in the midfield so didn't kick as many rolls as he could have despite a pretty good season as usual. Jvr and the young Jeffo who was finally getting better were quite ordinary. And despite our often poor delivery i50 our fwd line was a bust.

I'm not against the idea but it's apples and oranges I was stoked about BBB because he was the highest h and a goal scorer three years in a row and five years younger. But with our current fwd line, we certainly need all the help we can get. I hope he makes a big difference like BBB.

One way or another it's going to be a very interesting season. For many reasons. Alas, I'm calling early the lions for the trifecta

At 47 probably a good deal better than our myopic Melbourne men.

I hope we have not forked out too.much for him. He's 33 at the start of the next season and averages only just over a goal and half per game so it's nothing to swing from the chandelier about. But on balance not a bad call given the shape of our fwd line. But let's be honest it's another short term stop gap solution. I wish him the best.

I certainly understand the money we paid Tracc and Oliver. But were those contract lengths standard? Or did we overdo it? It's certainly come back to bite us.

His meltdown today says it all. Why are we settling on these extremely long contracts. Especially when players can seemingly break them.

And we lost Gus. Big changes certainly