Previously known as LITD.

How does a lack of a quality tall CHF impinge Fritta? Genuine question. Not being sarcastic. Agreed his better form was pre Petty games.

Definitely want him to stay and yea our delivery to him has been poor frequently. But he needs to account somewhat for his lack of pressure. Images of him jogging after players or soft tackling have been too frequent this year. Looks like he's turned things around and has lately been showing his old hunger. A bit too much at times maybe where he should have handballed. But we would be crazy to let him go given how much our fwd line has been struggling over the last few years. And while Frittas form has waxed and waned he's not the biggest offender. Our leader goal kicker for the last three years or.more I think. He shows some very special Kozzie like talent at times and when he is on, is a pure excitement machine.

I hope he stays a Demon. I've been guilty of giving him a little flak about not chasing and tackling as much as I would like or at least my perception of what is required. But at the end of the day he is one of those talented players that can pretty much go close to winning a game of his own boot. He seems to drift in and out of games somewhat but he's still definitely a keeper. His " spurts " in the GF helped get us home so there's that.

Finally after some glimpses of talent from him, we must let him play out the few remaining games regardless of what he does. Not.likevwe are going to make finals.

Self moderated.

Bizarre he was only in because May was crook. Something not quite right about all this..

My bad.

Yes please. Petty down back again where the poor bloke plays really well. And would be a far better option than Lever currently. For sure. It's been so long I think many of us may have forgotten how good Petts is as a defender. Playing forward he struggles to take an uncontested mark. Back as a defender he would take contested ones frequently. Played a huge part in our 21 success. To be fair Lever and May were cat their peak alongside him.O remember him absolutely crushing port in Adelaide one day. But now we have Tmac reinventing himself to reinventing himself as a defender again. Tmac is looking almost as good as a defender of five years ago. He held it altogether on Sunday. Him, Turner and Petty is strong enough and maybe we could trial May forward. Id actually prefer Turner fwd but he's probably our main defender of the future and I guess May as a fwd is too late now. To Anyway if Goody can be stubborn about this than so can I. Let's just hope Roo finds his old mojo and Jeffo shows what others have said he can do. At least he's earned a spot for next week. I hope so.

Ha. I've always loved Tmac I don't think I've ever said a bad word against him ever. Always been one of my faves and one of the most committed players we've ever had.

I say we play In Jeffo and Roo rain hail or shine.....zero marks or ten....goals or none. Same with three or four other youngsters and other 100 odd gamers like Sparrow who haven't set the world alight. Let's see what they can do or can't. Sure well take a lot of hits but what does it matter. Even if we win a spoon, we will discover who to keep. And let's follow through on this plan and be ruthless come resigns. I mean as happy as I was to see our highest score and a solid win, Melksham isn't the future. Although he's a must lock in for a coaching role. Absolutely. Frittas still got a few good years in him thank goodness but he plays hard and well or gets dropped. We know what he can do but if he won't tackle he's out. I know he's an awesome talent but in truth his tally and effort have been well down all year. And again as good to see him firing it's a.must he maintains this intensity for the rest of the season. If someone is coming out of contract then nobody is safe if we are determined to win another flag.

True but last time we played them about 13 weeks ago....they smashed us by 130 off to 66 or something like that. Yesterday was almost the opposite. So yea things are better. But that's the thing about this club you don't know what they'll do. Just like a reversal yesterday we were. Killed by the Saints...beat the Lions at the Gabba...lost to gws and Cwood by points. In fact notwithstanding the worst display of umpiring I think I've ever seen...we actually beat Cwood. Fritta is someone who sums this club up and apologies to those who give their best each week but Fritta is on or off. Chased or doesn't. Tackles then doesn't. Kicks straight or poor. It was encouraging to see him play a solid four quarters again but more so to see young Jefferson play his best game I think the kid has been intimidated on the big stage but once he moves past it may be our best fwd moving fwd so to speak. Unless Jvr gets back and beyond his previous form which have us all so much hope./

And playing like a gun.

Yep Tmac was epic as a forward. He started going downhill in the role in the middle of our premiership year but was definitely instrumental in ten wins we had early in. And thereafter even if he didn't clunk them bought the ball to a comp where a plethora of sharp shooters in Kozzie( starting to find his feet)...Nibbler and Spartacus. Harmes chipped in with a few others including Viney. BBB was also there so while Tmac dominated with his size and sheer power, BBB had some extra height and leap . It was almost as good as Tmac and Hogan. Better because we had more crumbers and other players hitting their straps like Tracca. I think Tmac was our leading goal scorer that year but we had so many kicking twenty plus for the year. Much more than our current lead tall in Petty this year. I think currently Fritta...Melksham and are at about 30 each. But in 21 we had about six players over this. As better as our fwds were then our mids were at their peak with some precision delivery as opposed to the later game plan of that she blows I wish we tried May fwd line we did with Tom instead of Petty. Because as I keep repeating...and now boring myself...Petty is the perfect defender. And while some players like Tmac can do both...some just can't. It's not a blight on Harrison. I feel sorry he's been thrown into the job when he is one of our best defenders. I think people have forgotten. Far better than Lever these days at least. Anyhoo, the days of Tmac, BBB ( a leading comp home and away goal scorer for three years in a row), Jackson and Fritta combined with all the smalls mentioned and our minds and wingers always chipping in was why we won a flag. In 22 BBB played while Tmac was injured. I think BBB may have been too or just fading away because he kicked only one goal for both those finals....0.5 a final. Not good. Given that Tmac was out . Jackson never really a prolific goal scorer kicked zip for both. I think he had already checked out. Well he certainly played like he had. Melksham despite his recent surge of current form kicked one goal for both finals. As much as I love Jake the truth is he has always been a very inconsistent forward. I know I will get flack for this but it's footy Gospel. Our leading goal scorer was Fritta with two and three. And our inaccuracy reared it's ugly head. Take two in 23..Jackson was gone...not that it mattered....this time Tmac was in for BBB who was cooked. Actually they both were and Tmac did the same as BBB with 0.5 goals for the finals series. Sadly Milkshake went down before the finals. Fritta was again our best with two goals per final with Kozzie and Joel Smith helping out. Despite no talls firing again...if Melksham was playing we may have made it. The 23 finals were both low scoring encounters plagued again with our shocking shooting at goal. Especially against against Carlton which was atrocious. Any way it's been the same ever since except for a glimpse yesterday which was interestingly without any domineering tall. Melksham and Fritta. The first with strength and the second with his leap do play tall in some aspects. But yep our failure to replace... Joel Smith Luke Jackson Grundy Tmac ( just rotated) BBB Has led to where we are currently and it's not good. I get mistakes are made. But four years of poor recruiting or non recruiting of fwds and poor kicking is not what you want from a professional outfit. As supporters who pay good money for membership and going to games...the club has let many down. Goody should do the right thing and own some of the responsibility. If he stays he should at least put his hand up and say... Mia Culpa. Why has Goody been so stubborn and kept Petty forward when it has not worked,? And 0.7 goals per game has to be a bust. And before any troll states he brings the ball to ground...he often fails to do so. He is athletic enough to get to a competition when the ball is delivered poorly but he lacks of core strength and is often out marked before he can punch the ball. As a defender he frequently playing fwd he frequently gets caught behind the ball and then it's too late to spoil. He's not bad below his knees for his size but he's bumped away too often . He is a tall player but needs more mass and muscle to play as a forward. Let him play in the backline Simon. He deserves it. Why not try Turner or May or Lever fwd. We've tried Tmac and it was a huge success. Win us a flag. Are these three options so incredulous or indispensable in their current roles? May actually used to be a forward. If you give Petty two years with very limited results why not a few weeks each for the others? We don't have much to lose. Oh wait just two double finals chances and then two years floating on the bottom of the ladder. What's that old saying about the definition of insanity? Something like following this club with Goody coaching.

Thanks old Dee. I defer to your esteemed opinions in these parts. I did drift in and out of the game watching it. Was trying to cook for ten people. But I did think Kozzie was really good. I just meant in terms of him kicking a lot of goals. In fairness I thought I mentioned that he contributed to helping goals come about quite a bit. But he uncharacteristically didn't bag his usual quota of three himself for once...and that is what I was trying to say. To be honest my interest in most games these days is simply the electrifying skills of KP. And to get angry about Petty playing fwd and Sparrow being gifted games every single time. That and recently watch Tmac stick it up Goody by being our best defender. Our leading marker yesterday and despite his age looks super fit. I was onboard a little about wanting lever back in. Last week in Adelaide,he was quite good and I think despite his injuries it's easy to forget what a star of the game he used to be. Sadly that is past tense and I'm not sure where he fits in. As long as,Goody stubbornly plays Petty as a forward then I guess maybe Lever gets a gig. Well maybe not after the North game. There is no way Tmac can get dropped. If May is out for a while then Lever gets in but for me only by default. Turner is a must in. May and Tmac are better than Lever. I still think If Goody really wants Lever in then May fwd is an option. It's certainly a better call than Petty. And despite me constantly potting Petty I believe he is a very gifted player. BUT ONLY AS A DEFENDER. He is a very athletic and reasonable quick for a bloke his size. He's certainly better below the knees than May is and he turns faster than Jake who lately reminds me of the turning circle of an old front wheel drive Magna I once had. Boy o boy....talk about your ten point I turn. Sheesh. But yea Kozzie is a delight to watch and worth every penny. Probably go close to winning a Coleman in a top four team. Props to the club for locking him down. Shame we haven't closed some forwards with the same determination. Thanks OD for the correction. Cheers.

I know this probably does not need a new thread but it's worth noting yesterday's contrast with Round three this year. Ok, so yesterday was a total reversal of our last game against North Melbourne. Not just in scores. In many ways. Our delivery into our forward line. Fast and direct, allowing for much space for players to lead and crumb. Not the usual quagmire where players couldn't swing a cat ( that's not a footy pun). It's was encouraging to see young Jefferson play his best game and he's obviously improving. I mean he really could only go up unless he started kicking goals for the opposition. I wonder if that is a thing. I think unlike soccer they are counted as points and not goals. I digress ( as usual) but last time Jeffo played v NM he didn't get one disposal. I can't recall if he was injured. He was subbed off though. But he made competitions frequently and l managed four strong grabs. He kicked a goal and realistically could have kicked three with some sad, atrocious kicking where he let his good work down. Anyway from what I've been led to believe this is usually not a weakness of his game. Our quality i50 delivery was due to Tracc and co winning quite a few CC and other players on the wing lowering their eyes frequently. And it helped not a few take some solid grabs including Melksham and Fritta. The former( Milkshake) didn't play the last time we played NM ( round three) where we were belted 125 to 66. Yesterday was our best fwd line in action attaining our highest score. This time with a quality fwd in the team in Melksham and KP back as well ( suspended in round three) it was night and day 119 to 83. With Kozzie adding only one major but creating a few goals assists with some classy i50s . But he unusually didn't dominate. Good teams usually have at least one great key forward that strikes fear into the opposition and is reliable for an average these days of 2 to 3 goals per game. Most of our leading goal kickers are under half this. And great teams have a couple of these. Yesterday we had Fritta and Jake the Snake that kicked five and three with a total that equalled our total tally of all players goals in round three. As mentioned Jeffo could have kicked three quite easily and Roo chipped in with a goal as well but was more instrumental in playing further up the ground as well as giving Max a well deserved chop out. So I imagine he wouldn't have kicked more sausages if he didn't have to ruck. We started off kicking wobbly but really straightened up. By golly by jingo ( sorry BT) but gee whiz what a difference it makes. This is thread is about our forward line coming together so I won't mention how poor our backline was at times. Thank goodness Tmac was back as our leading marker because without Maysie we looked bad with Lever a shadow of his old self. And I'm not going to mention names but Mcvee is a concern recently and didn't lay a single tackle.( Unlike Viney the beast who threw down nine of them. Wowee. Boy oh boy. The only blight with our leading goal kickers was Fritta back to his zero tackles. It's not a good look but he's forgiven for his three goals. Although Milkshake kicked five and managed two tackles. And when Jake tackles your goooooone. So what does it all mean? I have no idea. But I think we are better not playing Petty in the mix. He should take over Lever's role for sure. Last time we played NM, Harrison kicked zippo, zilch, dot....nothing. A sum total of seven touches for the day and one paltry tackle. As lacklustre I was in my playing days whenever I couldn't get my hands on the pill I did the only thing I could and get my hands on the opposition. It's one thing to have a rough day but to not do your best and have no tackles reflects poorly in my limited knowledge and experience of the game. You can get beaten in so many ways but the one area you can control when your opponent is outgunning you, is chasing and crunching and holding on for dear life. Every player has bad days but players that have stinkers and corresponding low pressure ratings show they don't have enough mental fortitude or appetite for competition. Not always but there are some alarming stats at times. Fritta has been one of these offenders this year Speaking of which, it was great to see him back to his best. His has been our leading goal kicker for a while and his slump has been telling. Jake was out for a good deal of the year and that's been just as telling. Now we have Jeffo and Roo. The latter too ...the slump from hell after showing in his first year great talent and promise. Now for two years we've all been waiting for the breakout year. Hmmm. Not yet that's for sure. Gone the wrong way, truth be told. But at least yesterday showed glimpses of what he can do. Enough to give hope he.might still make it. Maybe just as a decent serviceable and reliable chf. I think if we stopped him rucking his footy will get better Now that brings us to Jeffo. Finally a good game from the kid. And he is a kid who has been struggling big time in the transition from secs to the big show. But he finally proved he's good enough. Or least on his way. These two are so important because Melksham may only have one more year and what a massive win if Jeffo can be another Melksham. Although body types are not like for like. And Fritta is getting on a bit but still has a few seasons for sure. He's not a comparison to either of the youngsters though. My concern with him is his inconsistent form and lack of pressure applied and sometimes selfishness. But that's often the nature of the beast of frequishly talented players. The MFC desperately needs to recruit two more forwards. One to replace Milkshake and one because we don't really know where Jvr and MF are going to turn out. Plus another experienced ruck that can kick goals I know I know I know I'm.not asking for much but if we are serious this is just the start. Anyway what a delight to see a functional fwd line for once.

As great as Kozzie is as a forward he's best in the middle. Who is Swallow?

It's a big call but if Jeffo can become our next Milkshake then there is hope. Great game from Tmac today. Should never have been dropped. Kicked probably our highest score and even though it was just Nth, our fwd line is better without Petty. Great work from Max too.

I'm over Sparrow.

Our fwd line better without Petty.

A quality fwd makes the world of difference. Great stuff Milkshake. Our oldest but best fwd by eons. God help if he stops playing.

A quality fwd makes the world of difference. Great stuff Milkshake.

Its great to see him making a contest but his goal kicking has been shocking. But certainly an improvement and hopefully he will improve his shots on goal

Just needs to kick straight. But not alone.

Not sure about the Kolt.

Don't kick it to Jefferson.