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Exactly. We can then look to trade both 4 & 5 to GC and something else* for May, KK and Pick 2 or 3 which we can then try to trade to Port for 9 & 10 or keep for another trade or to use in the draft. I'm not sure why a number of our supporters think that we would have to accept a trade like 5 & 10 for Hogan. If Freo trade Neale for 4 and 22, then ergo Hogan is worth more to them than Neale (because that's why they're trading him). So it has to be pick 4&5, not the 'have my cake and eat it too scenario' that the Docker's supporters concoct. Logically if the Dockers traded 4 to Port for picks 9 &10 before trading with us, we'd be asking for 5, 9 & 10. If they want to keep an early pick then they have to give up either Cerra or Brayshaw who they then have to replace with that pick. * We've apparently sought permission to trade our first round pick next year from the AFL, that probably only works from the AFL perspective if we use a first round pick this year so whether that's 4 or 5 for us to use or to bargain with one of the SA clubs that will tie themselves up in knots to draft one of the SA kids - who will be gagging to get as close to the number one pick as they can.

The number May will wear next year at the MFC?

Yes, but we don't have to accept it.

Why wouldn't we do that deal with Port ourselves? I'd be disappointed if the club wasn't on top of this and demanding that it's Freo's and Brisbane's first picks or no deal until 2019; unless they want to trade us pick 5 and Cerra. Freo can't have their cake and eat it too, 4 and 5 is closer to Hogan's worth than say 5 and 10 (Port will probably only do that deal if it can be Pick 4 to get one of the SA lads). That deal sounds more like a fan trade than a realistic club option.

I 'm not sure winning the premiership will make much of a change to his decision making. I think for Gaff it's a question of whether he wants to come home and be near his family (and be very well compensated) or remain at West Coast and be not so handsomely paid (but still on pretty big money). If anything it may free up room in the Eagles TPP due to not having to fork out over the top money to retain Lycett.

Its clear a lot of Denham's article is predicated on Freo making Hoges the mother of all offers. It all depends on whether he bites. There's obviously something in the air with Neale looking to go to Brisbane though.

Obviously Deboy, Garmin and Pannell aren’t going to be umpiring any GFs anytime soon- unless they umpired our VFL one on the weekend?

Wonder whether the AFL site will hang the young guys out to dry with their rankings when Tyson, Lewis and Jones were insipid and should be held accountable. Two of them should not play in 2019.

What's obvious from this year's team is how long it takes to develop as a ruckman. Most of those picked are comfortably in their sides best 22. Not to be disrespectful to Darcy, but he'd struggle to get a regular game at most teams. Looks like Trac has to come off the bench to relieve in the ruck as well.

Good to see the Rev in the crowd flanked by two Demonland favs in Godders and Wardy. Well done Neale, well done Dees!

Well said. I first started following footy and the Dees in 81 a particularly poor year in our history. Since then I’ve been exposed to a lot of the ups and downs of this club. I work in a particularly stressful and complex environment with often unrealistic time frames and stakeholder expectations. For that reason alone I am glad that I can walk around with a grin on my face no matter how crappy work gets because for the first time in 12 years the team that I love and I have grieved and been through hell with is playing finals. I had one particular person try to bring me down with his particularly inane perspective - like the better man I ignored him and walked away. Winners are Grinners after all and this is the first time in over a decade that I can look forward to September!

If the club had any inkling that Jesse wanted to go home at the end of his current contract it should do this deal, particularly if the player is Langdon.

Melbourne, might still be able to profit. With Tom Lynch leaving the Suns and if May gets traded to the Swans for presumably what the Saints give them for Hanners, then the Suns are likely to have three picks inside the top 6. They need to import experience and plenty of it to help with another slew of high draft picks and a young list. So desperate were they last year they parted with Pick 3 for Lachie Weller. We should look to get back into the top end of the draft.

Not yet anyway. You constantly see him talking to team mates on the bench though.

I love Jack, but apparently he needs to change his running style or he will never get on the park for any length of time.

Out: Hunt, Garlett, Pedersen. In: Melksham, Hibberd, Hannan. Jones to go to HBF.

NO!

I actually think we might beat West Coast over there. The ground dimensions suit us. We can't defend space and are absolutely shizen on the MCG. I have no faith in Garlett or ANB in the furnace of pressure football.

Reactionary or Radicals are usually intolerant of other's views. Whether Left or Right.

I was listening to it on the radio in 83 I believe and the first time in a long time we beat them there. Matthews was playing at Full Forward and couldn't get a kick. The radio said he'd plastered his nose across his face (but he may have also broken his jaw). Dog act.

I heard the story from a long time Demon fan (not sure if he was at the game though) The way he told McMullin never played again after Matthews broke his jaw, but clearly he did. It wasn't unusual for Matthews, but it would have been worth the price of admission to see Big Carl chase him round the ground. To add innuendo to further tarnish his notorious reputation, I've heard Matthews departure from Collingwood wasn't all that amicable either, especially from a particular player's perspective. Matthews, Thompson, Carey, Buddy.... good players, but 'friends' like them you can do without.

Don't forget they need to talk up the Bummers because they'll be stinking it up next Friday night and the following one. FWIW it's blowing a gale in Canberra ATM and it may or may not die down for the game tonight. Doubt it will be a high scoring affair which brings Adelaide back into it.

Richmond resting Nankervis this weekend, we don't have that luxury. I suspect that if they're worried about Max, then it would actually be Weideman that would come in to ruck. We have one forced change with Smith out, but it will be interesting to see if they make another one. I wouldn't be surprised if Hunt comes in for Smith and maybe Cam for Bernie who looks off the pace.

Yeah the funny one!

I think Bernie is on thin ice once players come back from injury. He was way off the pace today.