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You mean Charlie or Max have to change numbers ??

Exactly. We can then look to trade both 4 & 5 to GC and something else* for May, KK and Pick 2 or 3 which we can then try to trade to Port for 9 & 10 or keep for another trade or to use in the draft. I'm not sure why a number of our supporters think that we would have to accept a trade like 5 & 10 for Hogan. If Freo trade Neale for 4 and 22, then ergo Hogan is worth more to them than Neale (because that's why they're trading him). So it has to be pick 4&5, not the 'have my cake and eat it too scenario' that the Docker's supporters concoct. Logically if the Dockers traded 4 to Port for picks 9 &10 before trading with us, we'd be asking for 5, 9 & 10. If they want to keep an early pick then they have to give up either Cerra or Brayshaw who they then have to replace with that pick. * We've apparently sought permission to trade our first round pick next year from the AFL, that probably only works from the AFL perspective if we use a first round pick this year so whether that's 4 or 5 for us to use or to bargain with one of the SA clubs that will tie themselves up in knots to draft one of the SA kids - who will be gagging to get as close to the number one pick as they can.

The number May will wear next year at the MFC?

Yes, but we don't have to accept it.

Why wouldn't we do that deal with Port ourselves? I'd be disappointed if the club wasn't on top of this and demanding that it's Freo's and Brisbane's first picks or no deal until 2019; unless they want to trade us pick 5 and Cerra. Freo can't have their cake and eat it too, 4 and 5 is closer to Hogan's worth than say 5 and 10 (Port will probably only do that deal if it can be Pick 4 to get one of the SA lads). That deal sounds more like a fan trade than a realistic club option.

I 'm not sure winning the premiership will make much of a change to his decision making. I think for Gaff it's a question of whether he wants to come home and be near his family (and be very well compensated) or remain at West Coast and be not so handsomely paid (but still on pretty big money). If anything it may free up room in the Eagles TPP due to not having to fork out over the top money to retain Lycett.

Its clear a lot of Denham's article is predicated on Freo making Hoges the mother of all offers. It all depends on whether he bites. There's obviously something in the air with Neale looking to go to Brisbane though.

If the club had any inkling that Jesse wanted to go home at the end of his current contract it should do this deal, particularly if the player is Langdon.

Yeah the funny one!

I think West Coke will also try and get Mitch from the Crows who wants out and possibly Kelly from the Cats. They need Gaff to go for salary cap relief and also compensation that they can use to shore up potential trade/s.

He'd be irresponsible to stay... ergo he will leave. Not sure if it was Healy or not, but Gerard usually gets pretty good mail. He's pretty close to a number of players.

From one of the commentators over the weekend (sorry can't remember which one, but it may have been Gerard Healy) was that with the money the Eagles had offered Gaff he'd be financially irresponsible to stay. I think they're probably pretty keen to get the other McGovern who apparently definitely wants out of the Crows - so that limits what they can pay Gaff whose compensation they would need to help get McGovern.

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I keep waiting for confirmation of what's happening with Leaver, but with the Free Agency period not closing until Sunday, maybe we have to wait to next week when it's confirmed Brisvegas actually have pick 19 to trade.

I reckon I have more chance of winning Tattslotto than the the odds of Adelaide making a 'statement' by forcing Jake Leaver into the draft.

Its all just empty posturing. I doubt its for oppo clubs, more for the nuphy supporters. The same ones that demand line in the sand coaches statements and plan Bs.

Won't get to the point of Leaver going to the draft. Both clubs are actually pretty close now in terms of what they want and what's being offered. The passage of time will bring them closer tohether The irony of the situation is the comparison with Scotty Thompson. We drated him with pock 16 and thtee years later when he was homesick we got pick 12, which many of us thought eas unders considering where his talent was taking him. Adelaide used pick 14 for lLeaver, but three years later no way is pick 10 on its own enough.

No change. He's already made his decision and its unlikely to change based on the weighting of winning or losing a premiership. He's made a professional decision, based on a number of factors one of which will be increased remuneration over what he's paid at Adelaide. You aren't a footballer forever and he will make hay whilst the sun is shining.

May not have come from us though.

Garland provides depth while Joel Smith, who is a good size and can jump, develops.

It would be indeed, but if I'm the Crows recruiting manager I'd ask us to go back and have another go. I think another first round pick is more valuable than ANB, and trading the likes of a Frost/Tyson/Watts would potentially get you that.

Ahhh - I see you've fallen for the player that is a spud against every other team, but played alright against Melbourne once in their career. See Tim O'Brien.

Couldn't believe it when he missed that shot, surprising as he is a really good kick. He did have a very bad corkie so I think that kick was a bit of an anomaly.

Makes the idea of Hawthorn trading Cyril for a couple of top 20 picks (as has been suggested) to get back into the first round a bit silly then.

Not really an oversight if he thought Petracca would go number 1. What's apparent is the club rated McCartin in the top 3 talents for that draft. What Jason Taylor's order would have been is speculative.