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Couldn't agree more The Dogs have 5 guys around that 200cm or more and we had one who is our ruckman. AMW was taking Ugle Hagen at times??? and although he did well it was a ridiculous match up. I wish KC could tell us why they won't try Verrall (our only other 200cm plus player) in a key position. Its a waste of time for him getting 5 hit outs and 3 or 4 possessions. He's only going to learn in a set position where he can pick up multiple possessions and learn to intercept marks.

Obviously not all this game but they need to get games into Tholstrup and Howes. Verrall and Jefferson also need a taste as both will be getting games next year. Sestan needs to get a game to see how he goes. Hope he gets another year. No point recycling Hunter Brown Billings Schache and Thomlinson, other than to give them a send off.

Agree with the slow midfield. They are all very good players but..... Rivers adds a bit and Kozzie (but he's small for a permanent midfielder). But we've had that problem for years and been able to get around it. Its partly the reason Max gets 90% hit outs but we only get half the clearances. And when we don't have Max like last week it shows up more. But when it's wet our stronger bodied midfielders win out.

I really like him too. But saying that I think he is a bit short to become a top of the line ruckman. He could easily become a future CHB, especially as our key defenders are nearing the end of their careers.

Was anybody else surprised to see AMW taken off for Woewoden AMW is a down under, inside defender with a rugby background perfect for those conditions and been playing well. Woewodin is not soft but is more an outside defender like Bowey and McVee. I thought it unbalanced us a bit.

Not going to blame anyone. Great effort. Can't believe a team full of 18 -20 year olds showed so much maturity. Great for our future . Many carrying injuries including Max. Clarrie had to have work on his groin during the week. Lever first game back. Obviously Bowey had been carrying that back for a while. Petty has had foot injuries all season and sustained more so don't know why people target him so much. Windsor is only a young guy and hasn't had a breather all season. Rivers has been thrown into the middle to learn a new role. We had to go with an oversized defence with 4 talls and still put great pressure on. Our forward line is built around 2 ex defenders. 3 of our main midfielders in Tracc Brayshaw and salem are gone. Likewise our back up midfielders in Jordan and Harmes have gone. Our back up wingmen in Billings and Hunter haven't worked out. Our 4th forwards in Melksham and Smith who contributed around 3 goals combined each week are not there. I think it amazing we should have won the game.

Not going to blame anyone. Great effort. Can't believe a team full of 18 -20 year olds showed so much maturity. Great for our future . Many carrying injuries including Max. Clarrie had to have work on his groin during the week. Lever first game back. Obviously Bowey had been carrying that back for a while. Petty has had foot injuries all season and sustained more so don't know why people target him so much. Windsor is only a young guy and hasn't had a breather all season. Rivers has been thrown into the middle to learn a new role. We had to go with an oversized defence with 4 talls and still put great pressure on. Our forward line is built around 2 ex defenders. 3 of our main midfielders in Tracc Brayshaw and salem are gone. Likewise our back up midfielders in Jordan and Harmes have gone. Our back up wingmen in Billings and Hunter haven't worked out. Our 4th forwards in Melksham and Smith who contributed around 3 goals combined each week are not there. I think it amazing we should have won the game.

Obviously it's Lever (if fit) for Thomlinson. Bowey and Chandler haven't played well for a while but it's hard to see who would do better. A month ago I would suggest McAdam but nothing showing there. On Casey form you would have to say AMW who had 30 plus touches and if Salem is doubtful because of knee, then he could help out in a midfield role. WOULD CERTAINLY ADD NEEDED MIDFIELD PACE. There's little defensively at Casey to take Bowey's spot. Hore is the most likely but he is listed as a test. If they rest Windsor I would prefer Woewodin over Billings. At some stage they'll give Sestan a go. Not likely to make 4 changes though.

Windsor has got pace, but that doesn't count at clearances. Picket has pace but doesn't have the build of a permanent midfielder, in any case he is needed down forward. All the successful sides have pace through the midfield, but I can't see where it is going to come from. There's no pacy midfield options at Casey that I'm aware of. Chandler is quick in a straight line but struggles to maneuver quickly and is small for a midfield role. McAdam might be quick but has no tank. Rivers is a bit quicker but not exceptionally. Don't even know if we have a sprint coach.

Pretty hard to have a game plan when successful sides have good fast runners through the midfield where we are so slow. Even Goodwin said our plan was to slow the pies down, and that didn't work.

agree about Hibberd We don't have a strong defender to go against any medium forwards. Howes Bowey and McVee are skilfull but don't intimidate forwards. Rivers is the closest you get. We are cetainly missing the way Melksham played towards the end of last year. A medium forward who uses his body and jumps into packs, and reasonably accurate around goals.

yeah definitely need to draft some one for midfield during midseason draft. Whether good to go or young with potential. There's not much in the stocks at Casey. Seston looked the best of them last week but he's more HFF.

would add bite to forward, but also insurance if someone goes down in defence, to leave Petty as a forward

It was a good win, but I don't know why, when we get 5 or 6 goals in front we play defensively and try to save the game That was a great opportunity for a 10 goal win that we missed. Be glad when Bowey comes back and can take Billings spot.

This game and West coast are probably our best chances for 100 point win. Other teams will do it to them so we have to as well. Percentage could be king at end of season. Fill your boots Dees!!

I always said Jefferson had a huge upside to come. This is just another step on the way.

I think this will be a watershed game from him. If he is going to succeed as a second ruck to Max he has to gain possession and kick goals which is what he did. Might not be this year but it was great to see.

Hustwaite Moodie and Steele seem to be the best of the younger brigade at Casey

Having a tall, mobile and hard hitting backline makes a huge difference and helps out the smaller players so much.

Schache out for Fullarton. Fullarton is not only a better ruckman but also a better overhead mark. Even if he doesn't take the mark he would rarely be marked against. He also kicked many goals last year in VFL Hore for Bowey. Our backline is our strength and you can't afford to take players from other positions to play there and expect to have the same cohesion. Keep Salem in midfield. Playing him in the back half in the last quarter against the swans allowed their midfield to take over. Picket for Spargo (could also be Chandler but Spargo was less of a contributor). Billings for Woewodin You need a sub who can come on and make an impact with run and aggression even if they don't actually get the possessions. Woewodin had an impact last year whereas Billings was on for nearly a half and you hardly noticed him. Laurie for AMW. It's about time for him to see what he can do even if it's only as the sub. That's 5 ins but if Picket, Bowey and Laurie are forced and you don't count the sub, it's really only the one unforced change (Schache for Fullarton)

I thought Spargo was only second to Viney in the midfield. Putting him on the HBF when Bowey went off cost us all the drive we were getting and the Swans midfield over ran us. It was a bad coaching decision. I would rather see a direct swap of Hore or Adams for Bowey. Pity Turner is injured.

21 of the available players seem to pick themselves. There might be a couple of either/or such as TMac and Thomlinson. I hope they give the last spot to someone either new or old who has shown improvement, rather than just potential.

They were all great. Every player has strengths and weaknesses. None of them will miss out on best 22 because they are not good enough. So different from all those lean years we had.

I had to ring the club membership line and they sent me an email with the log in details. You have to sign up for $35 a month after the 12 month period but you can cancel that after the 12 months. Maybe they'll continue the package deal.

likewise great deal plus nominal membership.