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And what your saying is Oliver and Brayshaw don't do enough gym work because they don't have the AFL pro standard body? You've said some ridiculous things over the time 'luded', but this is right up there. And I do laugh how a a pro physic body is the standard to becoming a great AFL player in your case..

Then what is the issue? Oliver is in great physical nick and has worked extremely hard off field at his training. There are still things club needs to get right, the boys off field training and gym is not one of them.

No i did not assume that. But the days of being in the gym and stacking on massive amounts of muscle are gone. Youre still stuck in the 90s mentality on players needing to have the bigger biceps then the next team. It does not work like that anymore. Midfielders especially need to be at a lean level to be able to run out games. They're still able to maintain their strength, but running out games at a much longer level. Oliver and Brayshaw are very good at this. And how do you know the club had not set highest standards physically Martin? Did the pre season doco not prove to you that pre season was probably the hardest they've ever worked in Burgo? Players have been on record this year so far saying that this pre season was by far the physically and mentally challenged they've ever done. Ed Langdon who came from the Ross Lyon program said it was his hardest by far.. not bad huh. Again you making this assumption on the back of one merely photo and no facts or information.

Good to see you haven't changed one bit Dee-luded. You must have missed the part where Oliver undertook a strict rigid training regime after his first year that resulted him losing 6 kilos which then translated into a stunning year of him winning a best and fairest at 19 years of age. Or when him and Sam Weideman decided to challange themselves in the off season by doing extra 100 laps of the pool in their days off. This notion of 'Oli' needed to do extras is purely crap. Ask Brendan McCartney what he thinks of Oliver, and he will tell you he's the most hard working and competitive beast he has seen since Joel Selwood. You make these ridiculous assumptions based pictures that you see on the internet. Oliver body shape is just fine.

Well played LN, I'm happy to throw in a few expletives just to get the crowd on the edge. Unfortunately I will be signing out of here for a while now while footy is off limits. I have too much going on in my personal life that's taking a real toll on me, and i need to now focus on my young family and extended who are battling right at this minute. Let's all try and be kind to each other, the world is in pain right now and we need to do the right thing and take care of our love ones. To many who I have had heated exchange over the journey, i do apologise, especially you @Satyriconhome you crazy old ba stard ? don't take it personally, we're all passionate about the greatest team ever. Much love demonland family, see you all when the footy starts!

Could have easily kicked 4 indeed. Only one up forward who looked threatening.

Sorry Pickett but clarry was disgraceful. I watched 3 WC players casually stroll out of our defence while he just casually jogged towards them. Lazy and poor all day. His attitude needs a huge ego check. He carries on like a spoilt brat and he's been carrying that from his bushies days. This is the time for Gawm to earn his points and pull him back into line.

Oscar beat Darling. Harsh

Pickett, Viney, Lockhart and Bedford were the positives.. Where was our leaders? McDonald, Jetta, Melksham? Hibberd is finished, see ya. And im afraid to say, but Jetta is just about cooked. ANB and Spargo are dead set suburban footballers.

When Bedford is already bettee player then Spargo and ANB.

Spargo ?‍♂️

Wow.. I have stuck up for Spargo all these years but he'sdone it for me now.

Hurry up and retire Hibberd

Fumble fumble fumble fumble.. we seriously live for that [censored]

Say what u want about the guy, but Naitanui is a bloody good ruckman.

Jesus Brayshaw is a massive disappointment. Id easily be happy if we used him as a trade option come end of year.

Hibberd is the Brent Moloney of the backline. Just booooommbbs away every single kick.

That was biggest [censored] weak of a chase by Oliver

Im sorry but the Harmes down back experiment simply does not work. Get him in the [censored] midfield Goodwin

And then he does that ?‍♂️

Alex Neal Bullen 1 disposal that quarter. Someone again tell me what he brings to this side??

Checked out already. Really disappointing. Dranj their pre season hype.

Oliver getting absolutely pansted by Kelly.

How much are we playing Stafford again?

He is a germ of a human being, nothing but a stain. Demonland needs to permanently isolate him from this website This is bigger then football. Look after your love ones everyone, and stay safe. We'll be back again.