dazzledavey36

Am also a big believer that there is always talent in the draft regardless whether its a weak draft or not. History will say that over the past 10 years there has been exceptional talent that has come from each draft. So if we are able to.get a couple of early draft picks then i back Jason Taylor in doing a great job. The only issue with Steele is based around Steven King's reasoning around wanting to get rid of Oliver due to evolving nature of where the game is going and thats being able to transition. King feels that the game is shifting away from contest and having one dimensional inside mids which both Steele a s Oliver are. I just cant see a world where we get rid of Oliver only to then pick up Jack Steele.

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The Gawn, Viney extensions were board decisions, @dazzledavey36 . How so? I havent found anything that suggest otherwise. At the end of the day its Lamb's job to draft up a contract and yes get the final tick of approval from the board with any list management decisions. Lamb still has a massive input into this and as it stands he got this one complete wrong. Whether it was panic station from the Roos offer or not, it was completely unnecessary to offer him such a long contract at his age. I'm well aware of both their roles thanks Adam. Taylor has done an exceptional job bringing in some of the talent. Langford and Lindsay for instsnce are easily 10+ year players for this footy club. Give us some more early picks for Petracca and I think he will cook well again. Lamb on the other has butchered some of the list management decisions over the past couple of years. The long list of names i provided have been at the expense of Lamby. Its a long list of genuine list cloggers which has neglected in us bringing in young talent instead. I would love to see Steven King start fresh with a whole new list manager beside him.

Well no not really? If you're talking age then Petracca who is 30 years old is only worth a second rounder going off your criteria. He is about to command an early first round pick as a starting point. McVee has done nothing significant. Hes been a role player and thats it. No guarantee that he turns into a more significant player. For all we know he could just stay as that solid role player at Freo snd churns out a solid 150 games. Hes worth an early to mid 2nd round pick.

Lamb has had an absolute shocker the last couple of years. Billings, Schache, Sharp, McAdam, Dunstan, Fullarton, Hunter, Grundy. Not only that, some of the list management decisions and contracts he's handed out which we are now trying to get off the books. Giving Jack Viney a 4 year offer even though he was already contracted was one of the most bizarre list management decisions i have seen. Giving up a lot in terms of draft capital just to move up the order and select Tholstrup who has already been told he needs to shape up or else. I'd be a happy man if the club got rid of him after this trade period (they wont).

Can't get any more factual then this @Ted Lasso

There is no way in hell McVee is worth more then ANB in trade value ANB is not only premiership player who has alao finished top 3 in the best and fairest but a far better player then McVee in general. McVee had a good year in 2024 but thats about it.

This is what I was talking about needing to take a step back next year (miss finals) to then take two steps forward for sustained success. I Grab a couple of early draft picks if we can on top off Langford, Windsor, Lindsay, Bowey, Rivers and Kozzie and let King cook up a brand new culture of high performance and professionalism.

I reckon he he'll jump up the draft order after that performance.

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I think you're clearly losing the plot considering you have misinterpreted what I said. Not once did I EVER say I want us to be at the bottom forever, thats you, and you only thats saying that. Breath before you hit the enter button next time.

I agree mate. I think Humphrey is a long shot so i prefer the two early picks. Grab two high end talents and let King rebuild on the run. Finals is out of the equation next year so if it means we need to take a step backwards to then take two steps forward for hopefully sustained success then I am happy with that.

Yeah I still stand that I think its a long shot with Humphrey. I think Gold Coast will make it hard but also what happens if he doesnt nominate us? Butters may be a long shot but Ben King has spent time with Steven King which i dont really consider a long shot compared to Butters.

Could go towards Humphrey if he nominates us or even Butters or Ben King next year.

Can anyone post full article please?

No one has said he is as good as Trac.. but he is a star on the rise of the competition and GC will be reluctant to let him go at all which they have been very adamant of unless he comes out and requests a trade back to Victoria and even then I think Gold Coast will be still reluctant to use him as part of a trade.

From Fox Footy article. CHRISTIAN PETRACCA TO GOLD COAST That leads us into the Suns’ most important move — operation land Petracca. It mightn’t be that easy though, for Melbourne would want to be well compensated for the contracted four-time All-Australian. But his nomination to head north instead of Adelaide is a win for Melbourne given Gold Coast’s surplus of assets including three-first round picks — potentially four if it gets St Kilda’s Pick 7 for Sam Flanders. The first port of call for the Demons would be Bailey Humphrey, as unlikely as that would be. For the Suns have said Humphrey won’t be traded, despite the 21-year old meeting with Melbourne officials and clearly being open to a return to Victoria with multiple clubs circling. Let’s just pretend Humphrey isn’t available, for then it becomes a question of which party has to give up more (for the record, we’d say Melbourne). That would make Gold Coast’s Pick 7 it gets for Flanders the centrepiece of a deal with the Demons. Melbourne, who doesn’t currently have a first-round pick, would want another first rounder thrown in on top of that. The Suns would be prepared to do that — and say, give up pick 14 or 17 — if it meant their remaining capital was enough to secure their academy players. Or if beyond the two highest rated of those academy prospects, Zeke Uwland and Dylan Patterson, if Gold Coast was prepared to forgo one or more of the others. At the end of the day, it’s still a much cheaper cost than Charlie Curnow and the Suns should get Ugle-Hagan for very little, if anything. What gets deal done -Melbourne receives Pick 7, Pick 17 -Gold Coast receives Christian Petracca, Pick 26

I think Craig Cameron has turned into a bit of Adrian Dodoro wannabe so this where it can be difficult if they are declaring that Humphrey wont be traded under any circumstances. I do agree with you though is that if Humphrey does come out and nominate us then it will certainly throw a spanner in the works

I want to dare to dream but I just dont see how it can actually happen even with the Petracca trade.

No, i havent said that at all. The reality is we will get an early pick. Thats a given. Whether thats pick 7 alongside pick 13 perhaps, who knows. If the club wants players then we need to get realistic. They're not sending pick 7 and Humphrey for instance. I think its going to be incredibly hard to get Humphrey involved at all. If it was me personally I would be asking for Will Graham with pick 7. Graham will be an up and coming star in years to come who might find it hard to squeeze in with all these academys coming through. He is a talent who would slot well into a midfield next year.

Petracca ain't staying mate. The club want his salary off the books quick smart.

Dont think we will get Humphrey at all as part of the deal. But I wouldnt be surprised if Alex Davies may be the player that they ask for in terms of wanting something back along with an early pick. Tall inside midfielder who has had to bide his time due to Anderson and Rowell taking up all the midfield minutes. Everytime I have watched him at AFL level he seems to do well. He'd get far greater midfield minutes with us instead of GC.

Pretty sure it closes next Friday?