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Awful game, Rioli a cut above every other player on the field. The AA half back so far.

Correct. This notion that they're lumbering oafs is ridiculous. In fact, that more accurately describes gawn or Grundy when resting forward

Considering we have a stack of unproven talent - Chandler, Laurie, Mcvee and probably Tomlinson (jury's out) and they've added a seasoned ruck forward and full back, I think they are clearly the stronger side on paper. Not sure why we are saying 'their depth must be in trouble' with Baker when we're starting Chandler who's no more accomplished and a member of the same Casey premiership side

Gee whiz Tomlinson. Last I saw he couldn't turn, jump or push. Naughton will have an absolute field day. Disappointing they didn't go D Turner.

Not much has been said about Richmond - they werent much chop. Always difficult to tell what's one team being good and another bad - but I counted several goals that came directly from poor Richmond kicks under no pressure (Dusty in particular - they need to keep him close to goal now)

Let's just cool it on Laurie. He was a damaging player in U18s around goal and delivering to the forwards. He has a way to go and I don't expect him to light it up first game - but what separates us from the FD here is they are playing the long game. They seem to think he can make us better long term. Only way that can happen then is to play him - put his feet to the fire, build his experience and his confidence. The knock-on against Richmond I think showed them all they needed to see - smarts, poise, courage to take a hit for the team. They've always known he has the skills to play the game. They spoke at the end of last year about being bolder as an FD and giving the Casey talent the promotions they deserve. They're staying true to their word, starting round 1. We might lose the game but you never know what it could be the start of.

Wouldnt think it would be Woey or Schache as they would have been part of the announcement. Disco potentially...

Very very surprised on Laurie as I don't think he got time in Practise #1 (happy to be corrected) and in Practise #2 he had 6 touches for ~60m gained (inc. a very important knock-on) in 56% gametime. Woewodin had 5 touches for ~90m gained in 21% gametime.... That said, Laurie had a good finish to last year in the VFL. Hope he's fit enough to play at the level. Who would've thought McVee and Laurie before JVR???? If Taj isn't playing and we assume for a moment that May is, who is the final change from the team that took on Richmond? JJ? Can't be Schache as they will have told us as part of this video. D Turner?

Yeah I should have added that against the dogs, I think we'd be foolish to assume midfield supremacy. Dunkley and hunter aside it still bats very deep esp. if bont spends more time in there. I suppose my point is we often don't overload our backline and rely on our exceptional kpds to win 1v1s. They might lose quite a few to 4 200cm forwards...

If the dogs play the 4 talls what do we do? Do we change our A1 lineup? Knowing goody the answer would be no, but it has the potential to mitigate the gawn/Grundy forward thing if one of them has to swing back to play on a 200cm forward. May - Naughton Petty - Lobb (I actually think Petty's weakness is ruck-forwards so I'm not hugely comfortable with this and would prefer he switches with May) Lever - JUH? Or Darcy? Darcy - ????? Rivers/Hibberd/Mcvee?? Anyone of them will be giving away a lot of height I'm not convinced their strategy will be a resounding success but in general, the only forwards that kick a lot of goals on our backline are ruck-forwards. They've almost got 3 or 4 of them...

None of that fills me with confidence, especially the comparison to Jacko & that they were also "confident" on him whilst he was touring Freo's facilities during an MFC granted trip back home during the mid-season break. Wouldnt have taken Richo as one for naivety Blood in the water

'Lol' - Hes played 49 games, 24 last year. Ergo, it was effectively - at least in terms of experience - his 2nd year when compared to Clarry who played almost full seasons from his very first year after being drafted. Yes last year he had the benefit of being older, fitter and probably stronger than Clarry was during his 2nd season; but games played is the only reasonable benchmark.

Brodie has played 49 games, half of those at a dysfunctional rabble. If he can continue his trajectory, he's well on his way to being elite. Avg. 27 touches last year, same scoring as Clarry (0.2 goals, 0.3 behinds), & same number of tackles. CP/UP ratio (40/60) needs improving if he's to be an elite contested player in the comp (Clarry averaged about 60/40), as does clearances (avg.6 compared to clarry of 9). 5 score involvements per game on average (Clarry 7). Clarry an extremely high benchmark here...Brodie's stats are very similiar, sometimes exceeding Ollie Wines' stats from last year. An ex-brownlow medallist. If we go back to Clarry's 2nd season as a point of comparison given games played, Brodie's stats are superior. The kid can play, don't sleep on him. Re. us having two - yes we are blessed. + Viney who plays big bodied even though he's not. Not many teams are blessed with what we have in the middle. Not sure why that diminishes Freo or why its even a valid point of comparison. Brisbane, Collingwood, Sydney, Geelong - none of them quite have a contested midfield like ours and all finished above us.

That's a better explanation but I think you're overrating the players who've left (all of whom are NQR) and underrating the improvement that will come from within. Their overall list profile is terrific bar a dominant key forward (sound familiar?) Not saying I'm entirely convinced on them either, but I think some of the discussion here is reaching and somewhat self-assuring

Cool your jets a little. JVR is hyped because we've seen glimpses at Casey of a big forward with heart, aggression and desire. He's not going to be Buddy Franklin. It was one practise game where he was inserted half way through. Big guys take time. Just have some patience.

Absolutely correct. There was noise around us and Langdon for a long time. It wasn't 'real' until it was all of a sudden. I'd say since the advent of free agency, the smoke tends to indicate fire probably 6 or 7 times out of 10. That probably increases to 8 or 9 out of 10 when we're talking interstate players who may harbour a desire to live somewhere else. Honestly - from his perspective, it is no different playing for Melbourne or PA. Both are strong clubs, he gets to do what he loves and he'll be well paid and celebrated wherever. Perhaps moreso in the Adelaide fishbowl than he gets here from our small fanbase. It's all about where he wants to live, settle and sees himself living for the next 10 years and maybe starting a family (if on the cards). Like it or not a lot of interstate people don't love Melbourne - the traffic, the footy-centric culture, property prices, the lockdown. And that's without mentioning a need to drive 1.5 hrs to a pretty humdrum part of the world in Casey. We can bake him cupcakes, send him messages and express all our love for Koz but it's not going to make one iota of difference. He knows he'll get that and more somewhere else. As long as he keeps playing good footy.

Why are you saying they lack a bid bodied mid when they have Brodie? And now Jackson, who post the bounce plays this role and can stand up in a tackle and dish off? They run deeper than just Serong and Brayshaw. Mundy barely played midfield last year anyway...

Like it or not Kornes is connected at PA. He's also the best in the industry and stirring up [censored] and knows that to a degree, the more he stirs the more self fulfilling this will become...Melbourne staff and fans get desperate, and either 1) overpay to keep him (in which case Kornes gets to balance his stirrer persona with some humility - "I got it wrong, I put my hand up", or 2) force Kozzie and the Dees to become distracted and perform poorly. This both a) makes kossie cheaper and b) strengthens the case for him to leave. In this world - when you throw mud it sticks. It's just our lot unfortunately and comes with the territory of having a player like him. Every other team would love to have him - even for a year - and we've got him for this year. So that's good. He might return to Adelaide and have a chronic injury, a personal issue, something else - we don't know what's around the corner. He's been a hugely successful draft pick for us and that should be celebrated irrespective of what happens from now on. To those saying the club needs to look at what it's doing wrong - we're a victim of our own success. I doubt Jackson would be gone if we hadn't won the flag. Kossie would have always been in demand the way he turned out, but I actually think the early flag provided these players some closure having had some 'romantic' success - meaning they turn their gaze to a more transactional 'now where do I want to live and how much do I want to get paid' mentality to play out their careers. Particularly on Jackson and kossie as they were crucial contributors and received a lot of accolades. Not sure I get the same vibe with Rivers who I think still has something to prove to himself and the football public despite being a premiership player. Whole situation does make me very sad though. I want him to play for us forever.

Sorry mate I'm not sure I follow - what negative comments? I've in general only ever been bullish on JVR & as for Casey, I was one of those who criticised the club/coaches for not playing our strong VFL players like Chandler in the 1sts more last year. Do you have me confused with someone else?

I'm not basing it on a twitter comment - I'm basing it on having been a young Aussie male in the same venues, both City and Country, as players many times...and witnessing it with my own eyes. Considering I rarely see players out and about otherwise in this city of 4-5m people, I'd say that's more than coincidence. But acknowledge it could be, and also acknowledge the subjectivity of my individual observations. Maybe I've only witnessed the exceptions to the rule.

Good balanced response and mostly echoes my own experience. I only had one close mate descend into the really hard stuff with any regularity - and he has (largely) since pulled himself out of it. Smartest guy I know which is often the way - he's self-confessed on the spectrum (undiagnosed) and just finds life a bit boring without drugs. I worry for what he's done to his system over time & he has been a bit addled here & there (stutters etc. developed), but he's mellowing a little as he grows up. He's still a good person. Several other friends and in-laws have been badly impacted by cannabis. Brother in-law the prime example, with teenage use causing extreme schizophrenia & ultimately violence against his own family, my wife included. I've got no time for people who try to tell me that Cannabis is harmless. As for whether any of it should be legal or not - it's really difficult & I can see the arguments from both sides. Given my lived experience though I tend to revert to the status quo (illegal) - ultimately the damage that can be done is catastrophic & as we know all laws sadly need to cater to the weakest person in society. This is not to say that Alcohol is really any different though, and its peculiar that it is allowed when others are not. As for Ginnivan - he deserves whatever punishment he gets - IMO less because he's breaking AFL rules, moreso because he's a young man who needs guidance & direction to help him mature. That should be the Collingwood's #1 concern. If he loves playing footy then the suspension is an appropriate punishment. I'm not convinced given his character that he'll be at all concerned by having his reputation damaged. As for footy more generally - it doesn't make it right but we all know he's not alone. His teammates would have been in the next cubicle...maybe he's been exposed because there are still a lot of people that loathe the way he plays. Someone out to get him perhaps. There was a comment on twitter that said if we caught and suspended all the AFL players who've used , we wouldn't have a league to watch, which I think is probably true. I've seen enough of them in person to convince me of this - including certain stars we love to talk about on this site.

I was about to ask - what do we know about how their pre season has gone?

So who do we think will be nominated tomorrow? Turner or Burgoyne?

Full marks for this post...for saying that Jefferson marks the ball at HIS highest point. Drives me mad when the bozos say that player X Marks the ball at ITS highest point which implies some otherworldly space jam giant grabbing the ball at the top of it's arc

Can anyone elaborate on Salem? Did he not find the ball? Others in more prominent distributor roles? What's the deal? Was a top 5 player in a premiership year, in an area we've lacked