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2 minutes ago, Travy14 said:

yes he would, but why would he leave Rich for the exact same role

It seems Richmond want him out 

2 minutes ago, Bates Mate said:

If prefer not to lose him. He is versatile. I'd like to see him in the ANB role. Tank might need a bit of work but he is better in the air and better much at goal.

ANB roles revolves around pressure and his ability to never stop running.  Harmes cannot do this role 

9 minutes ago, 58er said:

All I can say is maybe we should be calling either Jack Graham's or Lachie Hunters Manager.

Also Paddy Dow for some outside run. 

Need a ready Made mid who is B or  A Grade 

Graham would definitely be an upgrade 

1 minute ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

I get that most of Harmes' strengths we have plenty off, and he's coverable in many aspects

But the tagging element I feel is somewhat a competitive advantage for him, has been very useful against strong mids

I think Jordan can fill that role 

13 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

If he goes, that’s a cause for concern. What is going on internally that is making these players want out? Are there fractures within the group? 

🤦🏼‍♂️Cmon mate pull it together. 

2 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Loved his running style

If WCE can sharpen his disposal, he'll be weapon for them

He was one of my favs but he is not sharpening your disposal at 27.  He is what he is.  
 

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I love it when Posters on here demand to know a Source. 
I was told on August 20 that LJ was definitely going, but why say anything, it wasn’t worth the hassle. 
i was also told LJ loves the Demons and has no bad blood at all. 
Trading is now a part of the game. We must get a good deal coming back 

and no i will not reveal my source under any circumstance 

👍

32 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

You'd have to feel for Lobb - requesting a trade 2 years in a row... must be difficult to work hard for your employer week in week out as a by-product.

The problem with Lobb is that his deal was so heavily front ended that there is not a lot of value in Freo trading him 

2 hours ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Nobody is giving up pick 5 & 7 for pick 2.

Absolutely you would 

3 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Levers CV was nowhere as good as Jackson

It was nearly identical besides the flag.  Lever was there 3 years, played in the GF, probably Adelaide’s best player on the day and was the squad of 40 for the all Australian 

3 hours ago, dworship said:

Actually I asked about your source when you first said he was offered a contract and you never replied. So I to call BS and you can jog on. You would be better off to just fess up that you were mistaken.

Good luck to you buddy! Feel free to stop reading my posts 

12 minutes ago, mo64 said:

In other words, you've got no idea of whether he did have a contract offer earlier in the year. What's your source?

If he's devastated with being pushed out, I doubt that it's true. And based on the compo pick we're likely to get, WCE aren't paying him huge dollars.

None of your business where I get my information from.  Just because you don’t like what you read, doesn’t make it untrue.  So jog on buddy because you are the only person who has no idea. 

1 hour ago, Lucifers Hero said:

If JHF gets to Port their pick #8 and future first is gone and with them go the idea that Freo can trade for that pick #8 to use in the Jackson package.

They of course can try and trade with other clubs to get that top 10 pick.

Otherwise they will have little choice than to include a very good, proven, elite player in lieu of a top 10 pick.  They have a few of them - just need to convince one of the Vic lads to come home!  And then include this year's pick #14 +/- swaps/sweetener depending on the player.

Alternatively, let Jackson go to their arch enemy.

Freo:  Rock vs Hard Place!

Freo have a few irons in the fire with Nth with Logue, so I’m thinking the JHF trade will unlock the top 10 pick we are after and allow Freo to swap 1st rd picks with Nth 

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

How many years?

Not sure of the specifics 

3 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Gotta change the contracts for first rounder draftees. The top kids get drafted to the struggling clubs and want to leave straight away. A number one pick leaving after one season is not good for the game. 

I agree!

can’t see them letting him go 

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Think the fact that Hunt openly admitted to a poster on here on best and fairest night that he was fairly disappointed to be pushed out by the club proves that he wasnt/hasn't been offered a new deal by the club.

Merrys up to the report I heard on the radio Friday. 

He had a contract offer early in the year and decided to hold out 

8 minutes ago, picket fence said:

NO its not. its a friggen salary Dump for Chrismas sakes. Noone else want him give em a third rounder time to be hard bargainers!!

One of the great things about the Dees list management team is that they are fair and reasonable.  They know what they want and pay fair value which is why they get deals done. 
If you hold a team over a barrel then it bites you in the [censored] down the track. 

1 minute ago, picket fence said:

No Way just no way, They cannot afford NOT to offload him, Cmon dees call their Bluff!

Early to mid 20’s is a steal 

H McKay off the market,  long-term deal done. 

Pies looking for a pick in the top 25 

5 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said:

I think Hunt's weakness is his lack of lateral movement.  Smith has it and offers much greater upside as a result and probably has more tricks.  Having said that if you can't get on the park you're no good to anybody.

I'd also like to address the Smith v Camerson issue.  Yes, Cameron kicked 5 goals.  For one Smith was on the bench.  Another was when Rivers handballed to Cameron when he was trying to get the ball to Smith and Cameron ran into an open goal.  Smith was involved in the other 3.  Guess what?  Cameron has kicked 3 goals on the best of opponents in one on one's and is a great player who was in great form.  Cameron kicked 3 on Hibbo in the final.

I'd prefer to have Smith to Hunt on the list.  We know Hunt's ceiling and we don't really need it.  Smith, if he succeeds, could be a really good player who offers a great deal of versatility.  Smith is higher risk for higher reward.  For where our list is we can afford that position.

Hunt and Smith are what they are.  They are not improving at their age.  They both have some athletic attributes but will never be a consistent AFL player. 
Hunt is a fan fav and one of my favourites but him leaving won’t hurt us on field  

16 hours ago, bluey said:

Gutted by this, the football management team have no idea.

We lost a few games sure, but the reason behind them had nothing to with Hunty, Scapegoating time, let’s save our own [censored].

🤣🤣🤣cmon mate get a grip 

9 hours ago, SFebes said:

Ramifications of Goodwin not playing players, that IMO deserved a better go. Disappointed to see him go, Goody can’t keep playing favourites 

This is the ramifications of depth players looking for more opportunities. Bedford had a run of games and did show enough.  He showed glimpses but does not find enough of it and is a very average kick. I’d have Kozzie, Spargs and ANB before him any day of the week.  The theory of Goodwin playing favs is completely false.  

8 hours ago, 1964_2 said:

Agree. 

Goody wouldn’t make the top 8 of current AFL coaches IMO. 

most people here plus some board members wanted him sacked pre R1 2021. He wins a flag, with an amazing list, one of the worlds greatest fitness guru’s, an assistant who should already be a senior coach, and suddenly his position is locked in for years. Doesn’t make sense to me. 

We should really capitalise on Yze missing out on the Ess job, by locking him into a sucession plan. Was interesting that Trac emphasised his appreciation for Yze’s coaching efforts well above anyone else in his runners up B&F speech. 
 

He mentioned Yze because that’s his midfield coach and the bloke he would spend the most time with. 
 

4 hours ago, Grouse said:

So considering pies are asking for a first round pick, we will have to split our Jackson first round pick to get Grundy. I for the life of me can't see any good in going after Grundy. It weakens our draft hand and ties us to an expensive 29yo on a long contract. An utterly bizarre pick up unless goodwin thinks if we continue to bomb down the line to gawn resting forward, it will be more effective that when we did that this year with Jackson rucking. It doesn't work and won't work again. 

Seem to work pretty well in 2021 and allowed us to get 2nd this year, so I would say your comment that it doesn’t work is completely wrong