Watts the matter

Kangaroos are putrid, as bad as I have seen this year.

So four days earlier Bernie is claiming that Bartlett was out of line and now he is having a go at the same players who he didn't like the president having a go at? Don't disagree with him but just seems a stupid point to be making now after his previous stance.

Freo wouldn't do this.

Another slow inside mid?

A very dangerous player to have on your team, thinks he is an elite kick and often fails to pull it off. Don't rate him.

Jackson Payne and Sam Skinner really hurting Brisbane. Swap them for Mcstay and Adams and the game would be going very differently.

Cerra doesn't impress me, seems very vanilla and doesn't have a point of difference. There is no way you are getting Taberner for Brayshaw (let alone Freo throwing in a second rounder)

Not bad changes, would have preferred Jones and Sparrow out and pressure forwards and a defender in.

It really depends what you can get in return, no point doing it for a second rounder.

I am definitely in the it will be good for us camp. Something needed to change and now it's time for other players to step up. While it won't be so much of an issue against Adelaide it is bad timing with Goldstein and Grundy coming up.

I remember when we were trialing it a couple of years ago he must have taken 4 or 5 marks inside 50. Unfortunately, I don't think it translated to any goals but he is a shell of that player now.

Disagree he is often fumbling and two grabbing the ball which is denying him and the team time and space. It is a major issue and if he can't grab the ball cleanly going forward we need to kick him out of the centre square. It is a disgrace the lack of clean centre clearances we get over the past 3 years given the ruck dominance we have.

Season is well and truly alive, if we are good enough we will make it to October. Eventually you need to start beating teams above you and we will need to start doing this.

Geelong are crap to watch, but there chip it around plan seems to work.

Watching all the smashings this week. If we don't beat Adelaide by ten goals, it is a fail.

When was the last time a half back won a brownlow? I don't see his game translating to the midfield but each to their own. I will be sure to mark your words because I know that this will never happen.

Because its a knee jerk reaction based on one game and you have ignored the good work he has done. I am all for questioning his picks but I can't see any of your suggestions of who was available other than who we picked. Wouldn't swap Jackson for anyone other than Rowell in the draft. The selections of Sparrow and Spargo are bigger issues for me. Easy to say sack him but which recruiter are you replacing him with? Brisbane and Port I rate, but not too many others standout.

No, we went in with a clear type in mind for that pick (small forward) and deviated from best available.

I've questioned Taylor on numerous occasions but this thread is just stupid. Luke Jackson was a brave call and I haven't seen anything from anyone else in the top 10 that makes me think we messed up. The Pickett thing is a big call considering the player we rated 5th in the draft was still available. The other thing that is equally concerning is the player we rated 5th (who impressed me) was a typical Melbounre style player with poor kicking skills.

Was refreshing to see him fire off a few in a row.

Horrific umpiring once again.

Nah, would take him over Tomlinson but wouldn't do much for us.

Starting early this year. I have been as critical of him as anyone but there is no way we trade him. And for one first rounder ?

Yes, if you listen to Ken Hinkley and look at the intent throughout the game and the result. They wanted it more than us and that's not usually the reason we lose but last night it clearly was.

We were that poor I would rather they didn't have one than put forward an unwarranted effort.