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Spencer will dominate. Have you seen Deuce Cordy, now he is useless.

Might have learned a lesson from the St Kilda game in this regard. We will give them a run for their money.

You're. Taking the pizz. I will be there early because the women folk are playing as well. Two wins on the one day. Will take that anyday.

No Jetta on Demon Twitter Melbourne FC ✔ @melbournefc Roos says Neville Jetta (concussion) won't play this week but should hopefully be fine for next week.

I guess in my inept attempt to say what I am thinking I did not get out that I don't think they play as a team. They play as individuals and seem to be concerned for their own survival, possessions, goals etc. matter, whereas 1%, sacrifice roles etc are not valued as much and so rarely occur. Lamumba/Garland interaction seems to be an attempt if HL was being supportive. Every week you see a lot of times when players burn others in good position, in my opinion because there isn't a lot of confidence in each other. I reckon the club could do worse than as has already been suggested on here and get the boys out on a team bonding session (Xmas in July always worked for me say the bye week). Have a few bevys, forcibly break up cliques. Their time up north in the preseason seemed to be a good bonding session and maybe its needed again. We are looking from the outside and don't know what is going on so make assumptions (like I am doing now). I do know that when I was working, regular team sessions(over 50 in the team) with nothing to do with actual work involved, were excellent in getting them all engaged. Sure it wasn't a footy team but it was a team and they were dependent on each other. Apologies to C&B (or any others) if I have berated them. I just can't stand to hear terms like they don't care, or they did not try or the worst "did not come to play". Its just BS and worse when coaches say it cause its up to them to get them up. Really want to see a change in the mental side of the TEAM as I see it as the foundation of any successful group no matter what they do. Just glad there were no blogs on the roles I was involved in.

Absolute drivel. No one would put up with the life of an AFL player, the scrutiny, the daily evaluation, the armchair experts constant carping and the emotional highs and lows together with the restrictions on any sort of normal life and not care. Imagine if your job put you in the limelight and had all sorts of wannabes (fans) looking at every little microscopic detail of your life and work performance. These guys care about their performance, they just are not there yet. This site gets toxic after every loss as if a basket case is going to become league leaders in 29 games. Our expectations on players is irrational. Its absolutely stupid to expect players with less than 20 games to be able to match players with 100 plus games. We focus on a player that does one positive thing make them an instant star and expect them to replicate this time after time. We put expectations on players from day 1. Just look at the way Petracca is being set up. Reminds me off Watts when he was selected. Petracca has not played at Casey level yet some on here would have him as the great white hope because he was a good junior. Watts was a fantastic junior as well but the weight of fandom (and the club) expectation have virtually destroyed the poor bugger. I have concerns for Stretch because we have talented young player in him but have chucked him in at the deep end and his performances show he is not yet ready. Roos was given 3 years and we are not even half way into that tenure yet some want him gone because he has not done much. I am not his biggest fan but he took on a shite team with no confidence, no culture and has worked some improvement. The old saying in regard to how do you eat and elephant? With small bites! is appropriate. We will have some reversals but the win over Richmond, the valiant efforts before these last 3 games have convinced me that it is way to early in Roos tenure to start calling for his head or the heads of those he has influenced. I for one thought our effort against Freo was reasonable given where we have come from. It is true that we, the fans, have had to endure years of crap performances and asking us to wait on even more development is testing, but that is a fact of life. The problem is that we see a little bit of improvement and we turn it into the second coming only to be let down when our expectations are dashed. The Club/Roos have given us no milestones on the expected progression, stakes in the ground that we as fans can measure actual performance against so we set up our own (eg 8-10 games won for the year coming of 4 last year). I measure our performance week by week against our performance against our recent performances against this weeks opponents.. We were just shaded by the Dogs last year. They have had significant changes in the intervening period, have definitely changed their playbook and most importantly clearly have a belief in themselves and their abilities. Its this belief that is absent at the Dees. I think its only going to get worse if we fall back into the massive changes (more than 2) in the team. When the Dogs got smashed by the Hawks they made 2 changes (plus 2 for injuries). Roos an co, if they believe in their game plan should look to do the same, engender some belief in the players instead of changing the team week in week out. Watts should not be brought back in after 1 week, even if he did ask to be dropped. If they believed that last weeks team was the team to beat the Hawks then surely they are the team to beat the lesser lights at the bulldogs. Maybe give Stretch a rest and Brayshaw if he is not 100%. The team last week matches up pretty well on the Bulldogs team so let them have at it. Rant over, sorry if its a bit preachy. I am a big believer in the impact of the head is as much an influence as skills philosophy. Training can sort out the skills part and consistency at the selection table can do wonders for confidence. Take the risk that the team from last week, as a unit, can get the job done this week.

All the heat will be on Carlton despite our loss. We lost to a very good team Carlton lost to a mid range team that I don't think will make the 8..

That was the dogs 3rds almost. We ran them close last year and a poor defensive error at the death cost us. Wont happen this year.

Carlton is a certainty.

Western Bulldogs their percentage is 100 including a 70 point belting by the Hawks.

6 days out from a game they can go out on the drink if they want. Guessing you were drinking lemonade?

Roos is just going to ppretend it did not happen. Expect pretty much the same players.

This is part of the problem at MFC (and the other cellar dwellers). We get kids with potential and want to throw them to the wolves straight away. Shiels at Hawthorn as a for instance played a heap at Box Hill and was developed over time. We don't develop we just wear them out. I know teams like the hawks have truckloads of depth and they have had the time. We have not had stability in coaching and resemble the Italian Parliament. This is where the problems in our development process starts, no long term plan and demand for instant success following another change in coach. That's why I was hoping Roos Goodwin would work. Roos has nothing on the line (like say Malthouse/Hardwick etc). He should have been be able to take the three years to improve his squad but he has fallen into yoyo changes. In one week, out the next, in the next is poor. I can understand Watts saying he wants to play at Casey rather than be the sub. Goodes said and did the same thing. Back to the LIIT

Get fair dinkum Viv has played 10 games and has been given the job on Mitchell. Jones or Bernie should be on him. Stupid match up.

I would imagine that every game both teams think they can win so (yes even the Dees players otherwise why put yourself in harms way) it would be of little surprise for the Hawks to hear that Dawes thinks they are ripe for plucking. Hardly fighting words. I can also imagine that if we are getting beaten the Hawks players will get into him. He will probably belt them. I am not normally delusional but want to be today so I am going to put $100 on the boys. Now if somebody could tell me how to here. When we win, its long island ice teas for the rest of the weekend at Raffles. If by some perverse quirk of fate the Dees don't get up then its long island iced teas for the rest of the weekend at Raffles.

No tank. Surprised he isn't sub. Ran out of puff mid second term last week.

Along with jiggery pokery. Its just not used enough. This is definitely jiggery pokery.

That would suggest we know what we are doing.

Bulldogs did this gainst the Hawks as well. Rested players for soreness and mystery illness. I reckon it lowers the disappointment when you get flogged because of all the "outs"

No nooky until she changes teams.

No JKH. Any reason?

Comes up on my facebook feed. Will post it each week if it keeps coming.

Then what is the point of dropping any player to the reserves. JKH has gone backwards and is less effective each game.

No doubt we need ready made players of proven substance, I think we have some promising youngsters in development but we need immediate impact players (Rucks and Mids). I just don't know what we offer a high quality player, based on our current form. Realistically we are years of a flag. Money may entice them but plenty of clubs will have both cash and premiership potential. Roos has probably been our greatest attraction in the last two drafts but he is gone next year. The ones being mentioned in this thread will be attractive to many clubs. I also have concerns in our ability to keep some of our youngsters. Don't forget they are under the heavy influence of managers who earn their crust from the players payments so loyalty often runs second to the dollar.