THE RETIRING TYPES

MELBOURNE

Depending on who the new coach is, there could be a mass exit from the Demons. They have nine players who are 30-plus and for a team near the bottom, the temptation will be to clean out. Expect to see Byron Pickett, Clint Bizzell, Nathan Brown, Adem Yze, Daniel Ward and perhaps Ben Holland pack their bags.

THE RETIRING TYPES

MELBOURNE

Depending on who the new coach is, there could be a mass exit from the Demons. They have nine players who are 30-plus and for a team near the bottom, the temptation will be to clean out. Expect to see Byron Pickett, Clint Bizzell, Nathan Brown, Adem Yze, Daniel Ward and perhaps Ben Holland pack their bags.

Not much argument from me. Only problem is, if this is a fairly shallow draft, how do we replace all of them. Seven picks in a crap draft is probably not a great strategy!

Doesn't Yze have another year on his contract? Can't see us paying him out, absolutely pointless because the amount will still count towards our cap. Mind you if this was his last year of his contract then I'd be all for it...

Warren, we'll have two promoted from the rookie list in Bode and Neaves and hopefully we'll have 3 picks in the top 22 picks so it won't be too bad.

robert walls doesnt know a pinch of [censored]

Another superbly well-informed snipe piece from Robert Walls. At least have the work ethic to do a bit of research and look into who is actually contracted next year, Walls. Perhaps he should look at joining them in the retirement home, or does he have a year to run on his media contracts too?

Doesn't Yze have another year on his contract?

Yes

But Robert Walls has never been big on research

Another superbly well-informed snipe piece from Robert Walls. At least have the work ethic to do a bit of research and look into who is actually contracted next year, Walls. Perhaps he should look at joining them in the retirement home, or does he have a year to run on his media contracts too?

:D

I think Walls' problem is that he is stupid enough to think that Adem Yze would forfeit his contract for next year and retire. That would never happen in a million years.

The others are absolutely gone. Pickett shouldn't play again for our club. He got his 200 despite being unfit and overweight. Time to go.

Not disagreeing with you Jaded, but nor should Yze walk out on a contract. I certainly wouldn't if I was him! Quite rightly, I'd guess Yze is preparing his body for one strong final season.

I think he has more to offer than what we've seen the past couple of seasons quite seriously. I'd love him to bow out after a season more akin to his first decade at the club where his consistency and skills were a feature of his game.

Not disagreeing with you Jaded, but nor should Yze walk out on a contract. I certainly wouldn't if I was him! Quite rightly, I'd guess Yze is preparing his body for one strong final season.

I think he has more to offer than what we've seen the past couple of seasons quite seriously. I'd love him to bow out after a season more akin to his first decade at the club where his consistency and skills were a feature of his game.

We'd all love to see him change his spots, but a leopard never does.

Whatever happens, I hope that the new coach selects him only if his form warrants it. He is no longer an automatic starter at Melbourne.

Yep, that's fair enough. I don't think any of us want players occupying a spot in the 22 simply because they are old favourites. I just feel that a fit and firing Yze can offer something to the team, particularly in the skills department. The number of times I tore my hair our last night after Melbourne turnovers left me looking like Christopher Lloyd. I didn't follow our preseason closely so I'm not sure what they focused on in particular, but I hope there's a large emphasis on ballwork in preparation for season 2008.

Its going to very much a time for a BIG spring clean. Forget any aspirations for serious finals next year or even 09. Its time to seriously , well if not rebuild...do some major reno's !! This will require a coach who has done all this before..(successfully ...that means flags ) ..luckily one's available.

As to Walls.. well.. ...many have already done better justice to this fellow...lol

He's not big on realities , let alone facts.

yes Melbourne are having a clearout...he got that right...takes an Einstein doesnt it ?? lol

Its going to very much a time for a BIG spring clean.

Maybe I'm just naive, but I really don't think that Melbourne need such a big clean-out.

I don't think it should be underestimated just how much of an influence a good coach will have on this list.

Maybe I'm just naive, but I really don't think that Melbourne need such a big clean-out.

I don't think it should be underestimated just how much of an influence a good coach will have on this list.

that may be so but we still have too much dead wood on our list.

a 9 player clean up would be adequate and very necessary.

over the next 3 years, half of the current list will no longer be playing afl. thats a fact.

the problem with MFC...well one of them. Is we have quite a few players who need to move on ( for the betterment of teh club as a whole ) .Some are simply on the 'other ' side of their best days of their careers. Some just arent going to amount to more than 'adequate' players.

that may be so but we still have too much dead wood on our list.

a 9 player clean up would be adequate and very necessary.

The only problem is, where do you get nine players to replace them?

The only problem is, where do you get nine players to replace them?

considering it is likely we will lose the next 2 weeks (we will 100% lose next week anyways...) we will have a priority pick.

that means we could have pick 3, 18,20,36, 52, 68...we could certainly use all those picks...with 4 picks in the top 40 you would assume you could get some serious talent with those picks...

so 6 draftees, 1 PSD pickup (best available uncontracted player), 1-2 rookie elevations (Bode and Neaves are genuine chances...atleast one will be elevated), and 1 trade...

i assume we'll trade in a players, because i would include Jamar and Miller as part of my 9 delistings only if we could find a suitable trade for them, which will mean either an extra draft pick or player.

Who knows, a high profile player might be traded (bruce maybe) which would see us gain an extra 2 draft picks perhaps or a pick and a player.

Either way, it certainly isnt unrealistic to bring in 9 players in 1 season. most years most clubs would make 7 changes to their list...9 isnt out of the ordinary, yet it is highly necessary.

considering it is likely we will lose the next 2 weeks (we will 100% lose next week anyways...) we will have a priority pick.

We will smash Carlton in round 22

THE RETIRING TYPES

MELBOURNE

Depending on who the new coach is, there could be a mass exit from the Demons. They have nine players who are 30-plus and for a team near the bottom, the temptation will be to clean out. Expect to see Byron Pickett, Clint Bizzell, Nathan Brown, Adem Yze, Daniel Ward and perhaps Ben Holland pack their bags.

Yze will stay and maybe Pickett

ooze is contracted and untradable....of course the..&%$@! ( wonderful player ) will stay !!

Will in all likely hood play most in Zebby colours and see out year like Hollywood Bizzel did this year.

Great waste of money...Well done MFC

ooze is contracted and untradable....of course the..&%$@! ( wonderful player ) will stay !!

Will in all likely hood play most in Zebby colours and see out year like Hollywood Bizzel did this year.

Great waste of money...Well done MFC

You dont sound happy belzebub59

considering it is likely we will lose the next 2 weeks (we will 100% lose next week anyways...) we will have a priority pick.that means we could have pick 3, 18,20,36, 52, 68...we could certainly use all those picks...with 4 picks in the top 40 you would assume you could get some serious talent with those picks...

so 6 draftees, 1 PSD pickup (best available uncontracted player), 1-2 rookie elevations (Bode and Neaves are genuine chances...atleast one will be elevated), and 1 trade...

i assume we'll trade in a players, because i would include Jamar and Miller as part of my 9 delistings only if we could find a suitable trade for them, which will mean either an extra draft pick or player.

Who knows, a high profile player might be traded (bruce maybe) which would see us gain an extra 2 draft picks perhaps or a pick and a player.

Either way, it certainly isnt unrealistic to bring in 9 players in 1 season. most years most clubs would make 7 changes to their list...9 isnt out of the ordinary, yet it is highly necessary.

I thought priority picks are based on more than one years performance?? If so we wont get a PP

Doesn't Yze have another year on his contract? Can't see us paying him out, absolutely pointless because the amount will still count towards our cap. Mind you if this was his last year of his contract then I'd be all for it...

Warren, we'll have two promoted from the rookie list in Bode and Neaves and hopefully we'll have 3 picks in the top 22 picks so it won't be too bad.

Correct about Yze - http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/com...5E19769,00.html

We'd all love to see him change his spots, but a leopard never does.

Disagree.

Yze was a fantastic hardworking highly skilled player with a good dose of courage. He throughly deserved his AA in 2002.

Then he changed.

Having said that, I don't think he has the interest to change back.

Disagree.

Yze was a fantastic hardworking highly skilled player with a good dose of courage. He throughly deserved his AA in 2002.

Then he changed.

Having said that, I don't think he has the interest to change back.

if we dont win another game then we do get a PP...it will be AFTER the first round.

For example:

If we win another game- pick 4, 19

If we dont win another game- pick 2, 18, 20

in terms of draft, we will be in a much better position if we dont win another game...

(btw carlton's PP will be BEFORE the 1st round if they dont win another game...i.e. pick 1,3,19...this is bc they have had less than 5 wins for 2 years running

Either way, it certainly isnt unrealistic to bring in 9 players in 1 season. most years most clubs would make 7 changes to their list...9 isnt out of the ordinary, yet it is highly necessary.

I don't think you're right.

Awhile back, I had a flip through one of those AFL liftouts with team lists and a brief profile of all players at each Club. It listed the delistings from the previous year, and from memory the average was ~4.

I'm not sure how you can say that bringing in nine players is not out of the ordinary, and I can't see it happening. Seven would be huge.