We have a bigger problem with the players not showing the desire to push themselves. Judd and Cousins used to run until they were physically sick. The other WCE players took note and the team as a whole became a much harder running group. We dont have our veterans providing such an example.

again..it was where they were going...not how.. there was no impetus.. no desperation...thats not a fitess thing.. its a mental thing..

Many werent running intercepting lines they were running "with' their opponents..letting them do as they wished often.

again..it was where they were going...not how.. there was no impetus.. no desperation...thats not a fitess thing.. its a mental thing..

Many werent running intercepting lines they were running "with' their opponents..letting them do as they wished often.

Fitness and conditioning is the cornerstone. With it you can start to do all sorts of things such as think on the run, without it it becomes the headless chicken thing.

I still think cramping in the 3rd quarter as we were is very poor, I don't care who is in charge Babba whatsit or anybody else for matter.

I hear what you are saying Belze about running the lines etc But if your stuffed, you can't think straight, believe me I know, and running with, is more of a instinctive thing. we saw lots of that, out of position, leaving it up to someone else who was also stuffed, chasing shadows, missing tackles, terrible disposal by foot and by hand, and dodging out of physical contact, it was absolute rout by Hawthorn.They were given the game on a platter.

It was a bad day when Old Norm was sacked by Melbourne Football club, I think we have a version of the Babe Ruth curse on the Boston Red Socks.

Melbourne have never been the same again, save a couple of good but fruitless periods.

The SOxs went 70 odd years with that curse, I only hope we stop the rot sooner than they.

this was from the very beginning of the game !! straight up !!

this was from the very beginning of the game !! straight up !!

They were probably buggered after their warm up!!!!!!!!!!!

touche !!

I know what youre on about Demonique...and they did seem rather flatfooted.. but ..and its only my perception of course..its just like they weren't plugged in from the outset. The Hawkers did what they wanted to..and it was as if the Dees were in awe of them..crazy i know !!

this was from the very beginning of the game !! straight up !!

It is puzzling that Belz, but I just can't figure it out why they have fallen in such a heap in a short space of time. I know they didn't finish 2006 in winning style falling out of the 4. I feel on that occasion they were worked far too hard in the July.

You can work too hard in training, slogging it out on the track 24/7 is bad, you must allow the body to recover before it improves(golden Rule)What happens when you over train you become lethargic and it is not easy then to correct that mistake. I have a feeling that our team has those symptoms.

At times Melbourne in 2006 were magnificent. for it all to go down the gurgler in such a short space of time, yes, I'm looking for scapegoats

touche !!

I know what youre on about Demonique...and they did seem rather flatfooted.. but ..and its only my perception of course..its just like they weren't plugged in from the outset. The Hawkers did what they wanted to..and it was as if the Dees were in awe of them..crazy i know !!

They have GOT to believe when they sprint onto that ground that they are going to rip the oppositions throats out and absolutely believe that they are the BEST with no shadow of a doubt.they have got to be arrogant no question.

You have that mental strength when you know you can handle anything that the oppos will throw at you.

After the bad news today regarding Aussie, I thought I would check the MFC staff list to see of the infamous Bohdan was still with us.

Sure enough, my worst fears were realised -

Bohdan Babijczuk – Athletic Development Coach

Expect another frustrating year of injuries and setbacks to our young brigade with this guy leading the way.

A few years after Hawthorn sacked him, they won the flag.

Why am I not surprised?

ask shane crawford about this bloke........

ask shane crawford about this bloke........

No problems! When I'm walking past my local deli at 11.45am tomorrow, I'll ask Shane Crawford just as he happens to be crossing my path!

Or I could just ask you what you've heard.

Bohdan Babijczuk – Athletic Development Coach

Expect another frustrating year of injuries and setbacks to our young brigade with this guy leading the way.

Why am I not surprised?

YM Bohdan Babijczuk it the athletic development coach, he has NOTHING to do with conditioning, physiotherapy or medical. This means he has NOTHING to do with Aussie's training schedule or his rehabilitation. Accordingly he has NOTHING to do with Aussies hammy.

On this occasion you're not surprised because you're ill informed.

YM Bohdan Babijczuk it the athletic development coach, he has NOTHING to do with conditioning, physiotherapy or medical. This means he has NOTHING to do with Aussie's training schedule or his rehabilitation. Accordingly he has NOTHING to do with Aussies hammy.

On this occasion you're not surprised because you're ill informed.

You are spot on here Fan. Bohdan is no longer our conditioning coach. YM had better have a go at the new bloke if he wants to find another scapegoat.