Tyson Stengle

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

8 hours ago, monoccular said:

This has been one of my biggest complaints / observations for years - even way back when Ox and Neitz were there.    Always congested. 
Is it laziness or lack of coaching?   Carlton are doing it well. 

This is why i'd be aiming for a top line recently retired ex forward to come in and sort this hot mess of ours out Mono.

It's beyond the pale that it's still happening now after so many years under Simon.

Very amature stuff for far too long.  Too many seasons, lists and high quality mids, defenders and others wasted along the way.

I'd be aiming at a top liner who's done and seen it all.... IF they're willing.

Entice them with a medium term three year plus contract on heavy coin.

They'd be worth their weight in gold imv and the improvements would be relatively quick i would think.  At least after a pre-season and about one season of live matches to nail the changes down.

Examples who've had sustained impact & success might include...

Recently played / retired or likely to retire in 2024...

👉🏼  Tom Hawkins

👉🏼  Ablett Jnr.   Played extensively with great success through the middle as well as HF.  Would bring some incredible experience and knowledge / perspective in terms of bringing unison, communication and cohesion.

👉🏼  Jack Riewoldt

👉🏼  Jake Melksham*

👉🏼  Other?

Close to retirement but might be able to  bring some on field coaching,  guidance & value if snared and can play on for another season or parts of a season in 2025 (including a few Casey games to assist the likes of Jeffo / other forwards)...

👉🏼  Tex Walker

👉🏼  Tom Hawkins

👉🏼  Jake Melksham*

👉🏼  Other?

*No slight on Jake and just my opinion but would ideally prefer an outsider to assess and ring in the changes

Edited June 22, 2024 by Demon Dynasty

[dino rover 714]

What does Greg Stafford a former ruckman know about forward craft?

on the evidence….

i don’t believe you have to have been an elite practitioner player to be a good coach of forwards but some experience might be considered essential 

Edited June 22, 2024 by dino rover

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On 22/06/2024 at 10:49, drysdale demon said:

Role players are always important but midfielders are more so.

Not grat role players OR the right one for a teams needs, this is what’s changing my Friend! The very definition of role players is no longer Steve Kerr or Jud Buechler for Jordan’s Bulls — but now more Mihocek or Nibbler & Rick, in a team full of almost exclusively just role players, alongside a twinkling of stars of course! 
 

Depending on the side, the right role player can make them a contender, whereas the star mids impact is declining almost weekly — still valuable, but the 73rd best mid can have 90% of the impact of a top 10 mid — only the true cream Ala Trac, Heeney, Bont being the exception to that rule!

 

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On 22/06/2024 at 17:04, dino rover said:

What does Greg Stafford a former ruckman know about forward craft?

on the evidence….

i don’t believe you have to have been an elite practitioner player to be a good coach of forwards but some experience might be considered essential 

Yeah.. cus I don’t think he’d have to of demonstrated much forward craft knowledge to together the role would he? Probs not..haha

Not to be narcy, but you see my OTT point though right? I’m sure many had same thought — but it’s just something we can never really know (whether he as a had coach isn’t up to snuff I mean) for sure — But we can know that not many of the premium line coaches, only coach the position they played. 

 

 

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[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

10 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Caving into his demands? Perhaps squeezes a little more out of their salary cap limiting other FA targets like B.Smith.

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[Queanbeyan Demon 6,892]

7 hours ago, Demonland said:

1. How many acres of farmland is he receiving OTB, and
2. At the end of his career, I bet 2024 ends up being the standout year.