1 hour ago, layzie said:

The constant bombing bewilders me. Bombing in can be useful especially when you're trying to get it in quick with mismatches but we rarely did anything but this. What I would have killed for even slow ball movement but chipping around the 50 patiently to see if they would drop their guard eventually. We didn't really wear down Collingwood's backline when they didn't have the ball at all. It either just went in and we kicked a lucky score or it came out very quick. 

Just think when we're faced with this situation where it's hard to get separation from forwards, we should either be taking the game on and taking risks or we should protect the ball a bit more and be patient with it. Bombing it from slow build ups just won't cut it. 

I think the high ball into F50 happens for two reasons

1. We've slowed the ball movement up the ground so much that it lets the opposition get so many numbers back to crowd the area making it impossible for our forwards to find space to lead

2. When we try to move the ball quickly we are regularly making bad decisions by hand putting the ball carrier under extreme pressure which results often in a high ball just hacked forward

These are the problems I think Goodwin's is referring to in his presser - our process/method what ever label you want to use if currently not working well and they need to fix it 

Edited June 14, 20223 yr by Sydee

Some thoughts.

ANB can clearly run, add pressure, tackle etc.  But when we has/gets the ball, his disposal is not even up to vfl level.  Only 2 goals for the season so far for a small forward.  He's just not up to it.  We simply cannot win another flag carrying him in the side. 

Turner showed quite a lot in half a game.  He's gonna be a good'un.

Brayshaw, if it wasn't for him, we'd have lost by 12+ goals

Spargo was ok early.  One of the best tacklers in the comp.

Oliver has gone back to hand balling to team mates under pressure.

Gawn is doing everything he can... but clearly not 100% fit.  His pack marking has disappeared.

Petracca is playing like he now believes he's a superstar.  Not accountable enough

Petty is as good a defender as anyone out there.  Can play forward too (he did as a junior).

Salem needs more games

Pig was good for 1st game back

BBB needs to really hit packs hard.  Probably never going to happen though. 1 dimensional.

Bowey might need a spell in the 2's.  Rivers back in for him.

Sparrow is trying hard, it's just not working right now for him.

Jackson has been twisting into tackles the last month... just kick the f_n ball.  He's nothing more than an adequate ruck.  Better as a forward and or / mid.

Kozzie is trying to be a millionaire every time he goes near the ball.  Go back to basics.

Langdon is clearly still not right.  

Lever has never been a lock down defender.  Very out of sorts.

Fritsch is our best forward.  Poor delivery into him doesn't give him much to work with.

Jordan is doing just enough.  Needs to transition quicker.

Harmes has only ever been a back up on baller.  he's playing at his level - although to his credit he copped one late and kept trying.

Mitch Brown - the answer to a question nobody asked.

Viney keeps trying.  Disposal has always been poor although that right foot snap goal was very un-Viney like.

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We need to choose a mid size / tall as the emergency player, picking a small just doesn't work.

Opposition teams have worked our mids out.  Maintained high pressure through the middle means we bomb it in and we don't have the forwards to pack mark.  They then rebound quickly. 

The last 3 weeks the opposition's behind the ball structure has been very well set up.  Which also stops us moving forward quickly.

Not having May means our behind the ball structure isn't the same.  One of our most important players.

Tom McDonald.  I've been very critical of him in the past, however he adds so much to our team balance.  Will be sorely missed for most of the rest of the season.

Weid - get rid of him. Simply not up to it.

Tomlinson - probably should have been the emergency.  Can play back and can run for a bigger guy.

Rivers - needed a spell.  dominated in the 2's. comes back in.

Van Rooyen - Should get given a chance soon, might not have earned it yet - but looks to have the ability.

Joel Smith - Handy when he's on the park.  Unfortunately injured too often.

Hunt was unlucky to be dropped, however he's not in the best 22 when we are at full strength.

Dunstan is too slow and lacks polish.  I reckon we only took him as a cover for Jack Viney, who rarely plays a whole year.

Majak may just get a call up soon.  

Edited June 14, 20223 yr by JJ Haydos

1 hour ago, JJ Haydos said:

Some thoughts.

ANB can clearly run, add pressure, tackle etc.  But when we has/gets the ball, his disposal is not even up to vfl level.  Only 2 goals for the season so far for a small forward.  He's just not up to it.  We simply cannot win another flag carrying him in the side. 

Turner showed quite a lot in half a game.  He's gonna be a good'un.

Brayshaw, if it wasn't for him, we'd have lost by 12+ goals

Spargo was ok early.  One of the best tacklers in the comp.

Oliver has gone back to hand balling to team mates under pressure.

Gawn is doing everything he can... but clearly not 100% fit.  His pack marking has disappeared.

Petracca is playing like he now believes he's a superstar.  Not accountable enough

Petty is as good a defender as anyone out there.  Can play forward too (he did as a junior).

Salem needs more games

Pig was good for 1st game back

BBB needs to really hit packs hard.  Probably never going to happen though. 1 dimensional.

Bowey might need a spell in the 2's.  Rivers back in for him.

Sparrow is trying hard, it's just not working right now for him.

Jackson has been twisting into tackles the last month... just kick the f_n ball.  He's nothing more than an adequate ruck.  Better as a forward and or / mid.

Kozzie is trying to be a millionaire every time he goes near the ball.  Go back to basics.

Langdon is clearly still not right.  

Lever has never been a lock down defender.  Very out of sorts.

Fritsch is our best forward.  Poor delivery into him doesn't give him much to work with.

Jordan is doing just enough.  Needs to transition quicker.

Harmes has only ever been a back up on baller.  he's playing at his level - although to his credit he copped one late and kept trying.

Mitch Brown - the answer to a question nobody asked.

Viney keeps trying.  Disposal has always been poor although that right foot snap goal was very un-Viney like.

____________________________

We need to choose a mid size / tall as the emergency player, picking a small just doesn't work.

Opposition teams have worked our mids out.  Maintained high pressure through the middle means we bomb it in and we don't have the forwards to pack mark.  They then rebound quickly. 

The last 3 weeks the opposition's behind the ball structure has been very well set up.  Which also stops us moving forward quickly.

Not having May means our behind the ball structure isn't the same.  One of our most important players.

Tom McDonald.  I've been very critical of him in the past, however he adds so much to our team balance.  Will be sorely missed for most of the rest of the season.

Weid - get rid of him. Simply not up to it.

Tomlinson - probably should have been the emergency.  Can play back and can run for a bigger guy.

Rivers - needed a spell.  dominated in the 2's. comes back in.

Van Rooyen - Should get given a chance soon, might not have earned it yet - but looks to have the ability.

Joel Smith - Handy when he's on the park.  Unfortunately injured too often.

Hunt was unlucky to be dropped, however he's not in the best 22 when we are at full strength.

Dunstan is too slow and lacks polish.  I reckon we only took him as a cover for Jack Viney, who rarely plays a whole year.

Majak may just get a call up soon.  

Daw did not play on Saturday but no one seems to know why. 

On 6/13/2022 at 4:51 PM, joeboy said:

Gawn -played under duress 

Viney - disposal was haphazard 

Brayshaw - great third quarter

Salem - still finding feet

Lever - played without conviction 

Bowey - schoolboy footballer again

Turner - limited before injury

Petty - was obviously hampered 

Hibberd - not the answer

Oliver - prolific but harmless

Petracca - lost his edge

Langdon - had limited involvement 

Harmes - all or nothing 

B Brown - North was right

Jordon - disposal couldn’t hurt

Neal- Bullen - disposal was amateurish 

Jackson - couldn’t take control 

Spargo - was never dangerous

Sparrow - tried but limited 

Pickett - one noteworthy involvement 

Fritsch - delivery didn’t help

M. Brown - opponents licked lips

 

I have only watched the first half. ANB was excellent and Bowey was his usual beautiful kicking to a team mate. They must have gone bad in the second half.