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4 hours ago, kongwacker said:

Looking closer at the table I notice that Swooper’s 87 team is the only one in the list that was not premiers, Carlton were that year.

Doggas, do you know if the table is “finals series best percentages”, or “premiers, final series best percentages” and there has been a slip up not crediting Carlton in 1987?

Hey mate, just had a look at the '87 finals on Wikipedia, the reason Carlton aren't included is the table only counts 3 games or more - Carlton only played 2 finals in '87. I believe it simply measures best percentage over 3 or more finals.

 

It would seem so typically Melbourne to be the only member of that list to not win a flag, and be so high up on the list too.... but guess what, we won the [censored] flag this year in dominant fashion so any talk of "typical Melbourne" can go in the bin along with the Norm Smith curse!!!

On 10/13/2021 at 7:34 PM, binman said:

Didn't cover it specifically. But we did discuss our scores against is the lowest of any premier in over 50 years (since the the introduction of the out of bounds on the full, a change that lead to immediate significant jump in scoring)

And discussed how insane it was that in the home and away season teams only averaged a touch over 27 points against us in second halves. And the fact it was even lower in the finals. 

  Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 1st Half 2nd Half Full Game
Points/Game 16.88 20.24 14.24 13.08 37.12 27.32 64.44
Scoring Shots/Game 4.68 5.24 3.44 3.88 9.92 7.32 17.24
               
Goals 61 75 54 46 136 100 236
Behinds 56 56 32 51 112 83 195
Points 422 506 356 327 928 683 1611
Accuracy 52.14% 57.25% 62.79% 47.42% 54.84% 54.64% 54.76%
 
49 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Every non-premiership year is going to be such a let down.

And result in much shorter podcasts!


Looking back at the 1987 year, I note the following:

Carlton premiers and minor premiers, end of season percentage 138,

Melbourne night series winners,

Carlton two finals games, both against Hawthorn, pf 184, pa 136, finals series percentage 135.3

Including 2 finals games for year 87 alone I n the table doesn’t alter our position on the table

And we all wonder the “what if Jimmy hadn’t” from that year.

Bin, those stats might be interpreted to read that we came out hard in the first half of games and did what we needed to win in the second half, as you discussed in the podcast.

The scoring accuracy was a constant between first and second halves. Opportunity for Williams and Stafford to do some fine tuning over the preseason and lookout.

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

Every non-premiership year is going to be such a let down.

Just think of it as a necessary evolution of your MFCSS, Andy. 

 
34 minutes ago, kongwacker said:

And we all wonder the “what if Jimmy hadn’t” from that year

We would have gone into the GF limping, at least 3 players down, including Robbie, and got absolutely belted. Much like ‘88, but different opponent. 


Just getting around to listening to this episode and loving it so far, but I am going to pull you up @binman on your point about Oliver not chasing in the Bulldogs pre season game. I reckon it's rather hard to chase when you're not playing in the first place. 😜 Unless I'm mistaken, that was the first game Clarry has missed since his debut season.

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3 hours ago, A F said:

Just getting around to listening to this episode and loving it so far, but I am going to pull you up @binman on your point about Oliver not chasing in the Bulldogs pre season game. I reckon it's rather hard to chase when you're not playing in the first place. 😜 Unless I'm mistaken, that was the first game Clarry has missed since his debut season.

In fairness to @binman that match felt like a lifetime ago but good point nonetheless. 

7 hours ago, A F said:

Just getting around to listening to this episode and loving it so far, but I am going to pull you up @binman on your point about Oliver not chasing in the Bulldogs pre season game. I reckon it's rather hard to chase when you're not playing in the first place. 😜 Unless I'm mistaken, that was the first game Clarry has missed since his debut season.

But I'm right to say he didn't chase then am I not?

Must have been one of the others preseason games. Good pick up.

11 hours ago, JAG001 said:

1987 finals

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Was at both the semi-final and elimination final flogging. After making the finals for the first time in twenty years, it was like they were on drugs against North. Biggest shellacking I’ve seen live, final or no, and a huge Dees-happy crowd. Wonderful stuff. Almost as good as you know what! 

Thanks fellas for a top-notch podcast. Might have told you before, but in case I haven't, my mum is now an avid listener - counts you among her friends. She hasn't come out and said it, but I sense that she 'appreciates the tone' of the conversation...

Bringing a lot of people pleasure in difficult times. Cheers.

 


On 10/13/2021 at 1:25 PM, Deeoldfart said:

Fantastic work as usual folks.  Caped off a brilliant season of podcasting!

Yeah, thanks boys, for the podcasts. Really good insights and comments generally.  I'll miss your  podcasts over the summer.

What about podcasts for the Melbourne Stars?!  (just jokin')

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