Demonland 74,471 Posted October 14, 2021 Author Posted October 14, 2021 29 minutes ago, Webber said: Great wrap-up gents. How good is podcasting and listening during a premiership year?!!! Every non-premiership year is going to be such a let down. 1 Quote
Fritta The Hair G.O.A.T. 511 Posted October 14, 2021 Posted October 14, 2021 4 hours ago, kongwacker said: Looking closer at the table I notice that Swooper’s 87 team is the only one in the list that was not premiers, Carlton were that year. Doggas, do you know if the table is “finals series best percentages”, or “premiers, final series best percentages” and there has been a slip up not crediting Carlton in 1987? Hey mate, just had a look at the '87 finals on Wikipedia, the reason Carlton aren't included is the table only counts 3 games or more - Carlton only played 2 finals in '87. I believe it simply measures best percentage over 3 or more finals. It would seem so typically Melbourne to be the only member of that list to not win a flag, and be so high up on the list too.... but guess what, we won the [censored] flag this year in dominant fashion so any talk of "typical Melbourne" can go in the bin along with the Norm Smith curse!!! 1 Quote
binman 44,857 Posted October 14, 2021 Posted October 14, 2021 On 10/13/2021 at 7:34 PM, binman said: Didn't cover it specifically. But we did discuss our scores against is the lowest of any premier in over 50 years (since the the introduction of the out of bounds on the full, a change that lead to immediate significant jump in scoring) And discussed how insane it was that in the home and away season teams only averaged a touch over 27 points against us in second halves. And the fact it was even lower in the finals. Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 1st Half 2nd Half Full Game Points/Game 16.88 20.24 14.24 13.08 37.12 27.32 64.44 Scoring Shots/Game 4.68 5.24 3.44 3.88 9.92 7.32 17.24 Goals 61 75 54 46 136 100 236 Behinds 56 56 32 51 112 83 195 Points 422 506 356 327 928 683 1611 Accuracy 52.14% 57.25% 62.79% 47.42% 54.84% 54.64% 54.76% 2 1 Quote
binman 44,857 Posted October 14, 2021 Posted October 14, 2021 49 minutes ago, Demonland said: Every non-premiership year is going to be such a let down. And result in much shorter podcasts! 1 Quote
Demonland 74,471 Posted October 14, 2021 Author Posted October 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, binman said: And result in much shorter podcasts! Or longer ones if there is a lot of rage & new MFCSS variants. 1 Quote
kongwacker 78 Posted October 14, 2021 Posted October 14, 2021 Looking back at the 1987 year, I note the following: Carlton premiers and minor premiers, end of season percentage 138, Melbourne night series winners, Carlton two finals games, both against Hawthorn, pf 184, pa 136, finals series percentage 135.3 Including 2 finals games for year 87 alone I n the table doesn’t alter our position on the table And we all wonder the “what if Jimmy hadn’t” from that year. 1 Quote
kongwacker 78 Posted October 14, 2021 Posted October 14, 2021 Bin, those stats might be interpreted to read that we came out hard in the first half of games and did what we needed to win in the second half, as you discussed in the podcast. The scoring accuracy was a constant between first and second halves. Opportunity for Williams and Stafford to do some fine tuning over the preseason and lookout. 1 Quote
Webber 10,650 Posted October 14, 2021 Posted October 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Demonland said: Every non-premiership year is going to be such a let down. Just think of it as a necessary evolution of your MFCSS, Andy. 1 Quote
Webber 10,650 Posted October 15, 2021 Posted October 15, 2021 34 minutes ago, kongwacker said: And we all wonder the “what if Jimmy hadn’t” from that year We would have gone into the GF limping, at least 3 players down, including Robbie, and got absolutely belted. Much like ‘88, but different opponent. 1 Quote
Adam The God 30,753 Posted October 15, 2021 Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) Just getting around to listening to this episode and loving it so far, but I am going to pull you up @binman on your point about Oliver not chasing in the Bulldogs pre season game. I reckon it's rather hard to chase when you're not playing in the first place. 😜 Unless I'm mistaken, that was the first game Clarry has missed since his debut season. Edited October 15, 2021 by A F 1 Quote
Demonland 74,471 Posted October 15, 2021 Author Posted October 15, 2021 3 hours ago, A F said: Just getting around to listening to this episode and loving it so far, but I am going to pull you up @binman on your point about Oliver not chasing in the Bulldogs pre season game. I reckon it's rather hard to chase when you're not playing in the first place. 😜 Unless I'm mistaken, that was the first game Clarry has missed since his debut season. In fairness to @binman that match felt like a lifetime ago but good point nonetheless. 3 Quote
binman 44,857 Posted October 15, 2021 Posted October 15, 2021 7 hours ago, A F said: Just getting around to listening to this episode and loving it so far, but I am going to pull you up @binman on your point about Oliver not chasing in the Bulldogs pre season game. I reckon it's rather hard to chase when you're not playing in the first place. 😜 Unless I'm mistaken, that was the first game Clarry has missed since his debut season. But I'm right to say he didn't chase then am I not? Must have been one of the others preseason games. Good pick up. 3 Quote
Webber 10,650 Posted October 15, 2021 Posted October 15, 2021 11 hours ago, JAG001 said: 1987 finals Was at both the semi-final and elimination final flogging. After making the finals for the first time in twenty years, it was like they were on drugs against North. Biggest shellacking I’ve seen live, final or no, and a huge Dees-happy crowd. Wonderful stuff. Almost as good as you know what! 1 Quote
Grr-owl 1,258 Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 Thanks fellas for a top-notch podcast. Might have told you before, but in case I haven't, my mum is now an avid listener - counts you among her friends. She hasn't come out and said it, but I sense that she 'appreciates the tone' of the conversation... Bringing a lot of people pleasure in difficult times. Cheers. 1 1 Quote
Jumping Jack Clennett 1,825 Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 On 10/13/2021 at 1:25 PM, Deeoldfart said: Fantastic work as usual folks. Caped off a brilliant season of podcasting! Yeah, thanks boys, for the podcasts. Really good insights and comments generally. I'll miss your podcasts over the summer. What about podcasts for the Melbourne Stars?! (just jokin') Quote
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