Stats Files - 2021

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

4 hours ago, buck_nekkid said:

Players were trying to do too much.  Happened again and again.  Either the system works, or the superstars do super things.  We look like we didn’t trust the system, and all the superstars were well down.  When have yo seem max, Clarrie and Trac all have such stinkers on the same day?

Very rare for Clarry to have an off day Buck that's for sure and as you say with all three off their best.  Had Clarry been able to muster his usual standard game i suggest we would have gotten much closer and maybe over the line if he flew at his best.

My issue here is that in the last few weeks i've started to see a bit of selfishness creep in in patches with less sharing of goals/blocks/shepherds etc and that's a worrying sign.

I think the system works on the larger grounds like the G, not so sure it's a smart way to play on a squashed up ground like the SCG.  Personally i thought we gave them way too much rope off HB and up to half way/just over with the zone and enabled them to launch attack after attack far too often from damaging launching places.

To me the SCG (or similar sized grounds) demands a much more in your face style of defence, in order to pressure the opponents in to turning the ball over more often behind of and not much further than center.  Guarding grass and taking space on the SCG for me....not a great idea.  And the Pies gained confidence the longer the match went on and the longer we continued to do so.

Our contested ground ball, loose ground ball gets and pressure inside our 50 was deplorable as well IMV which didn't help matters and saw their backs either marking uncontested or running off at will from resulting spills far too often.  Spargo (in particular) and Kozzie both had a poor day in a crumbing/pressuring sense and just in general really.  Too many times our tall forwards either didn't make the contest or did not impact when they did and played from behind far too often.

The other issue is you are sometimes going to see your best having an off day as you say and to me this is when some of the remaining lessor lights need to take some responsibility and say "not on my watch" and step up to the plate.

To have the bulk of the team, bar a few of the regulars with a few rookies sprinkled in, also having some pretty ordinary efforts was the clincher.   Yes leaders need to step up also and yes many were off as you say like Maxy.  But just once in a while the others need to do their bit and take the responsibility to lift, especially the more mature players and to a lessor degree some of the rookies also.  Jordan and LJ were two that stood out as doing so but unfortunately not enough went with them.

One area i thought was consistently badly played was the constant tap/knock forward of center by Maxy in the center square ruck contests where the Pies were reading this and running to in numbers.  Then spreading out the back, linking around and then direct inside 50 on multiple forays.  We (Maxy) did not appear to arrest this flaw at any stage until we finally relieved Big M of his ruck duties for LJ in the third (or maybe late into the 2nd), with Maxy then resting more up forward.  For one of the rare times ever, i actually thought Max was a liability in the center square ruck contests in this particular match and thought it was no coincidence that we started to turn things around once LJ took over.  Max has had a few games this season where i thought he has really put us behind the eight ball with some decisions / tapping of late...including the match against the Crows.

One question i would love to ask the line coach here is ..."Was this pointed out to Maxy at any stage when he was resting on the bench?".  If he wasn't resting and instead resting forward then surely you take him off at some point and get the message through.  And /or if you are allowing max to continue with this strat, then highlight to the rest of the followers what the hell is happening and fix up their starting positions/structure to make sure they are getting to this drop zone more often and compete like Demons to wrestle the game back off them!!

The other very poor call for mine (in game) was the late call to place Harmes on a rampaging DeGoey, mostly in the second.  Could be wrong but it was my impression they left Sparrow on him for almost the entire first half (possibly switched Harmes onto him in the last 5 to 8 minutes or so of the second...possibly even later) but by that stage the momentum / damage was done IMHO.

We were well beaten on and off the park yesterday.  Cudos to Bucks and his crew but a little worrying for us if we are ever going back to similar sized grounds this season.

Edited June 15, 2021 by Rusty Nails

[buck_nekkid 5,846]

3 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

Very rare for Clarry to have an off day Buck that's for sure and as you say with all three off their best.  Had Clarry been able to muster his usual standard game i suggest we would have gotten much closer and maybe over the line if he flew at his best.

My issue here is that in the last few weeks i've started to see a bit of selfishness creep in in patches with less sharing of goals/blocks/shepherds etc and that's a worrying sign.

I think the system works on the larger grounds like the G, not so sure it's a smart way to play on a squashed up ground like the SCG.  Personally i thought we gave them way too much rope off HB and up to half way/just over with the zone and enabled them to launch attack after attack far too often from damaging launching places.

To me the SCG (or similar sized grounds) demands a much more in your face style of defence, in order to pressure the opponents in to turning the ball over more often behind of and not much further than center.  Guarding grass and taking space on the SCG for me....not a great idea.  And the Pies gained confidence the longer the match went on and the longer we continued to do so.

Our contested ground ball, loose ground ball gets and pressure inside our 50 was deplorable as well IMV which didn't help matters and saw their backs either marking uncontested or running off at will from resulting spills far too often.  Spargo (in particular) and Kozzie both had a poor day in a crumbing/pressuring sense and just in general really.  Too many times our tall forwards either didn't make the contest or did not impact when they did and played from behind far too often.

The other issue is you are sometimes going to see your best having an off day as you say and to me this is when some of the remaining lessor lights need to take some responsibility and say "not on my watch" and step up to the plate.

To have the bulk of the team, bar a few of the regulars with a few rookies sprinkled in, also having some pretty ordinary efforts was the clincher.   Yes leaders need to step up also and yes many were off as you say like Maxy.  But just once in a while the others need to do their bit and take the responsibility to lift, especially the more mature players and to a lessor degree some of the rookies also.  Jordan and LJ were two that stood out as doing so but unfortunately not enough went with them.

One area i thought was consistently badly played was the constant tap/knock forward of center by Maxy in the center square ruck contests where the Pies were reading this and running to in numbers.  Then spreading out the back, linking around and then direct inside 50 on multiple forays.  We (Maxy) did not appear to arrest this flaw at any stage until we finally relieved Big M of his ruck duties for LJ in the third (or maybe late into the 2nd), with Maxy then resting more up forward.  For one of the rare times ever, i actually thought Max was a liability in the center square ruck contests in this particular match and thought it was no coincidence that we started to turn things around once LJ took over.  Max has had a few games this season where i thought he has really put us behind the eight ball with some decisions / tapping of late...including the match against the Crows.

One question i would love to ask the line coach here is ..."Was this pointed out to Maxy at any stage when he was resting on the bench?".  If he wasn't resting and instead resting forward then surely you take him off at some point and get the message through.  And /or if you are allowing max to continue with this strat, then highlight to the rest of the followers what the hell is happening and fix up their starting positions/structure to make sure they are getting to this drop zone more often and compete like Demons to wrestle the game back off them!!

The other very poor call for mine (in game) was the late call to place Harmes on a rampaging DeGoey, mostly in the second.  Could be wrong but it was my impression they left Sparrow on him for almost the entire first half (possibly switched Harmes onto him in the last 5 to 8 minutes or so of the second...possibly even later) but by that stage the momentum / damage was done IMHO.

We were well beaten on and off the park yesterday.  Cudos to Bucks and his crew but a little worrying for us if we are ever going back to similar sized grounds this season.

Agree completely with your review and analysis…. Especially the game style on grounds like the SCG (probably cattery as well).  LJ was a much better choice than Max in the middle, and we simply were off all over the park. 

[Kent 2,906]

8 hours ago, buck_nekkid said:

Agree completely with your review and analysis…. Especially the game style on grounds like the SCG (probably cattery as well).  LJ was a much better choice than Max in the middle, and we simply were off all over the park. 

It appears to me we cannot use our standard game plan at the SCG It removes one of our strengths playing through the Wings

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

Rnd 15, 2021 MCG - Bombers vs Demons

May takes the chocolates....just.

Lingers the most meters gained for both clubs tonight with 602.  Turnover king tonight was Tracc with 7.  The most score involvements T-Mac with 9 closely followed by Gus & Tracc with 8.  The most tackles inside 50 Spargo with 3.  Lever lead the intercepts with 10 followed by May with 8.  The most one percenters May with 9.

Team score of 65 a big improvement on last week's 56 but still about 4% off our season average of 68.

Player	Score	Rank
Steven May	5.025	1
Christian Salem	5.000	2
Clayton Oliver	5.000	2
Jake Lever	4.425	4
James Harmes	3.975	5
Angus Brayshaw	3.800	6
Ed Langdon	3.625	7
James Jordon	3.600	8
Jayden Hunt	3.025	9
Christian Petracca	2.750	10
Tom Sparrow	2.550	11
Tom McDonald #	2.525	12
Luke Jackson #	2.525	12
Trent Rivers	2.475	14
Jack Viney	2.450	15
Max Gawn #	2.425	16
Michael Hibberd	2.250	17
Charlie Spargo	1.975	18
Bayley Fritsch	1.750	19
Harrison Petty	1.525	20
Kysaiah Pickett	1.300	21
Alex N-Bullen	1.100	22
Team Score	65.08
Top 6	27.23
Bottom 6	9.90

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

Weighted Average Scores up to & including Rnd 15, 2021 vs 2019

Salem holding on to 2nd just ahead of May/Gawny*.  Harmes jumps into the top 5 again but realistically probably sitting around 6th once Max* gets a "Hit Outs to Advantage" bump up (to roughly 3rd/4th alongside May).

Kozzie continues to fall away from his early season form and Jones pushes back into the top 22 without setting foot on the turf since Rnd 7

Player	2021 Score	2021 Rank	2019 Score	% Change vs 2019	2019 Rank	Change in Rank vs 2019
C Oliver	5.393	1	4.643	16.15	1	0
C Salem	4.094	2	3.658	11.92	3	1
Steven May	4.057	3	2.446	65.86	14	11
C Petracca	3.873	4	2.616	48.05	10	6
J Harmes	3.675	5	3.850	-4.55	2	-3
Jake Lever	3.579	6	2.313	54.73	17	11
Max Gawn #	3.550	7	3.256	9.03	4	-3
Ed Langdon	3.392	8
Jack Viney	3.283	9	3.068	7.01	5	-4
James Jordan	3.165	10
A Brayshaw	3.060	11	2.894	5.74	6	-5
T McDonald #	2.652	12	2.150	23.35	19	7
Jayden Hunt	2.646	13	1.958	35.14	22	9
M Hibberd	2.595	14	2.124	22.18	20	6
L Jackson #	2.523	15
Trent Rivers	2.480	16
M Brown*	2.475	17
A Tomlinson	2.475	17
K Pickett	2.391	19
Oskar Baker*	2.325	20	1.714	35.65	29	9
Nathan Jones	2.214	21	2.711	-18.33	7	-14
Alex N-Bullen	2.209	22	1.984	11.34	21	-1
Tom Sparrow	2.185	23	1.075	103.26	37	14
Bayley Fritsch	2.035	24	2.641	-22.95	9	-15
Charlie Spargo	2.029	25	1.375	47.56	35	10
J Melksham	1.984	26	1.931	2.74	23	-3
H Petty	1.897	27	1.905	-0.42	24	-3
Neville Jetta	1.865	28	2.264	-17.62	18	-10
Ben Brown #	1.575	29
S Weideman	1.055	30	1.818	-41.97	27	-3
K Chandler*	0.250	31
Average Team Score - Top 22	68.49		59.62	14.87

Hit outs to advantage not captured

* Only played one match not an average score

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

Edited June 27, 2021 by Rusty Nails

[Red and Blue realist 2,051]

Not sure if this has been mentioned in any other threads, but without having access to the actual data, there's a good chance that our Casey side was on average significantly older than our seniors. We've got 11 players on our list that who are 28 or older . Of these 7 played at Casey and 4 for the Dees, remarkably we were the second youngest team on the weekend just gone. 

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

Rnd 16, 2021 MCG - Demons vs Giants

Disposals Per Goal	54.0
% In50s Goal	12.4
Conversion %	35.0

Our worst result in the above three scoring aspects all season.  The next worse for over using the ball was last week against the Bombers @42.11 Disposals Per Goal.  It appears, in hindsight, this was building.

And look at that conversion rate...gadzooks!  Tops off our 39.1% last week and 38.7% against the Saints in Rnd 2.

May takes the chockies two weeks running with his highest weighted score this season.  Salem's second best this year.  His best against the Tigers in Rnd 6 with a 6.60

The top four players obviously defenders.  Probably explained by the fact they were under the pump with plenty of entries from the Giants but they also performed admirably much of the time.

In a worrying sign the team weighted score of 62.58 was only 5% above the average of the (woeful) 2019 season and a massive 10% off our 2018 season average.  We will more than likely go out in the first round or straight sets (if we get the double chance) putting in performances like this or close to it.  7 matches left to turn the tide folks or it's going to be a pretty ugly finals series and a sour end to 2021!

Player	Score	Rank
Steven May	5.425	1
C Salem	5.275	2
Jake Lever	4.300	3
Trent Rivers	4.000	4
C Oliver	3.950	5
C Petracca	3.925	6
Ed Langdon	3.375	7
J Harmes	3.225	8
Max Gawn #	3.175	9
T McDonald	3.125	10
James Jordon	2.650	11
Bayley Fritsch	2.625	12
A Brayshaw	2.600	13
Alex N-Bullen	2.525	14
Jack Viney	2.300	15
H Petty	1.975	16
T Sparrow	1.950	17
Jayden Hunt	1.475	18
C Spargo	1.350	19
K Pickett	1.350	19
L Jackson #	1.300	21
M Hibberd	0.700	22
Team Score	62.58
Top 6	26.88
Bottom 6	8.13

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

Weighted Average Scores up to & including Rnd 16, 2021 vs 2019

Player	2021 Score	2021 Rank	2019 Score	% Change vs 2019	2019 Rank	Change in Rank vs 2019
C Oliver	5.297	1	4.643	14.09	1	0
C Salem	4.179	2	3.658	14.24	3	1
Steven May	4.160	3	2.446	70.07	14	11
C Petracca	3.877	4	2.616	48.20	10	6
Jake Lever	3.627	5	2.313	56.81	17	12
J Harmes	3.625	6	3.850	-5.84	2	-4
Max Gawn #	3.525	7	3.256	8.26	4	-3
Ed Langdon	3.391	8
Jack Viney	3.143	9	3.068	2.44	5	-4
James Jordan	3.129	10
A Brayshaw	3.078	11	2.894	6.36	6	-5
T McDonald #	2.683	12	2.150	24.79	19	7
Trent Rivers	2.582	13
Jayden Hunt	2.563	14	1.958	30.90	22	8
M Brown*	2.475	15
A Tomlinson	2.475	15
L Jackson #	2.436	17
M Hibberd	2.423	18	2.124	14.08	20	2
Oskar Baker*	2.325	19	1.714	35.65	29	10
K Pickett	2.322	20
Alex N-Bullen	2.230	21	1.984	12.40	21	0
Nathan Jones	2.214	22	2.711	-18.33	7	-15
Tom Sparrow	2.155	23	1.075	100.47	37	14
Bayley Fritsch	2.077	24	2.641	-21.36	9	-15
J Melksham	1.984	25	1.931	2.74	23	-2
Charlie Spargo	1.983	26	1.375	44.22	35	9
H Petty	1.906	27	1.905	0.05	24	-3
Neville Jetta	1.865	28	2.264	-17.62	18	-10
Ben Brown #	1.575	29
S Weideman	1.055	30	1.818	-41.97	27	-3
K Chandler*	0.250	31
Average Team Score - Top 22	67.76		59.62	13.65

Hit outs to advantage not captured

* Only played one match not an average score

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

[buck_nekkid 5,846]

Thanks Rusty.  The stats back up reality in this case.  The trend towards mediocrity is underway, and needs to be arrested pronto!  

[Kent 2,906]

2 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

Weighted Average Scores up to & including Rnd 16, 2021 vs 2019

Player	2021 Score	2021 Rank	2019 Score	% Change vs 2019	2019 Rank	Change in Rank vs 2019
C Oliver	5.297	1	4.643	14.09	1	0
C Salem	4.179	2	3.658	14.24	3	1
Steven May	4.160	3	2.446	70.07	14	11
C Petracca	3.877	4	2.616	48.20	10	6
Jake Lever	3.627	5	2.313	56.81	17	12
J Harmes	3.625	6	3.850	-5.84	2	-4
Max Gawn #	3.525	7	3.256	8.26	4	-3
Ed Langdon	3.391	8
Jack Viney	3.143	9	3.068	2.44	5	-4
James Jordan	3.129	10
A Brayshaw	3.078	11	2.894	6.36	6	-5
T McDonald #	2.683	12	2.150	24.79	19	7
Trent Rivers	2.582	13
Jayden Hunt	2.563	14	1.958	30.90	22	8
M Brown*	2.475	15
A Tomlinson	2.475	15
L Jackson #	2.436	17
M Hibberd	2.423	18	2.124	14.08	20	2
Oskar Baker*	2.325	19	1.714	35.65	29	10
K Pickett	2.322	20
Alex N-Bullen	2.230	21	1.984	12.40	21	0
Nathan Jones	2.214	22	2.711	-18.33	7	-15
Tom Sparrow	2.155	23	1.075	100.47	37	14
Bayley Fritsch	2.077	24	2.641	-21.36	9	-15
J Melksham	1.984	25	1.931	2.74	23	-2
Charlie Spargo	1.983	26	1.375	44.22	35	9
H Petty	1.906	27	1.905	0.05	24	-3
Neville Jetta	1.865	28	2.264	-17.62	18	-10
Ben Brown #	1.575	29
S Weideman	1.055	30	1.818	-41.97	27	-3
K Chandler*	0.250	31
Average Team Score - Top 22	67.76		59.62	13.65

Hit outs to advantage not captured

* Only played one match not an average score

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

Thanks just confrms what i saw on a cold miserable afternoon

[Fanatique Demon 2,642]

Thanks Rusty. If you just look at the stats you’d think Oliver, Petracca, Harmes - all rated in our top 8 for the day - played well. But I think the midfield let us down badly.

Perhaps with the way these stats are compiled we need the midfield to fill out the first four or five places. Not May, Salem, Lever and Rivers. Crucial as those four backs are, the engine room has to do its job.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

2 hours ago, buck_nekkid said:

Thanks Rusty.  The stats back up reality in this case.  The trend towards mediocrity is underway, and needs to be arrested pronto!  

Aside from the backline this would appear to be the case in the last 3 matches especially BN.

1 hour ago, Kent said:

Thanks just confrms what i saw on a cold miserable afternoon

It was that cold Kent, at one point in the third i stood up quickly (for me) to cheer a goal and my right leg went into a cramp.  And that's without kicking any leather!  Too funny.  I've never felt as old as i did at that match and it sure felt like Melb of old to me which was a bit depressing.

35 minutes ago, Fanatique Demon said:

Thanks Rusty. If you just look at the stats you’d think Oliver, Petracca, Harmes - all rated in our top 8 for the day - played well. But I think the midfield let us down badly.

Perhaps with the way these stats are compiled we need the midfield to fill out the first four or five places. Not May, Salem, Lever and Rivers. Crucial as those four backs are, the engine room has to do its job.

FD i would compare the mids (or anyone's) season average score to their match day score and that will give you some idea, at least staistically, how they faired on the day.  Some better than others.  But as we know you can also look ok statistically on the day, or even not.ok, but still put in a bit of a shocker or maybe not (depending on the role being asked etc).

For example Olliver (way off), Harmes, JJ & Viney were either well below or slightly off (Sparrow)  their season average whereas Tracc was slightly above.  Does this mean Tracc played a solid game?

I'm not so sure in this case.  Ok maybe but was it one we would rate?  Did he cover off his direct opponents nicely when we lost possession?

Stats don't account for this perfectly and nor do these weighted scores.  I saw some pretty lazy accountability efforts from Tracc in our forward half on Saturday which allowed his nearest opponent (when ball was turned over) to just waltz out of our forward 50 with no pressure on at least two occasions.  With ball in hand he might have had a reasonable game which shows up in the weighted score but defensively he was pretty slack from what i witnessed.  Ok if he lands a tackle inside 50 or a few this will count towards his score.  But the method i use doesn't account for other pressure acts inside 50 (aside from one percenters) so this part is missed.  As was his lazy chasing efforts in our forward half or lack thereof on Saturday.

Edited July 4, 2021 by Rusty Nails

[Fanatique Demon 2,642]

Thanks again, Rusty.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

Rnd 17, 2021 MCG - Power vs Demons

Disposals Per Goal  29.6 % In50s Goal 26.7 Conversion % 46.2

Significant improvement in all of the above forward indicators from last week's effort against GWS....

Disposals Per Goal	54.0
% In50s Goal	12.4
Conversion %	35.0

Tracc's equal best result in these tables for the year.  Same weighted score against the Tigers in Rnd 6.  Clarry bouncing back with another top of the table result.

May, Macca & Salem rounding out the top five.  Petty's best result for the season beating his 2.475 against the Lions in Rnd 12.

Still some work to do with the team score about 5.8% off the season average.

Player	Score	Rank
Clayton Oliver	5.900	1
Christian Petracca	5.125	2
Steven May	4.200	3
Tom McDonald #	3.875	4
Christian Salem	3.800	5
Ed Langdon	3.700	6
Michael Hibberd	3.200	7
James Jordon	3.025	8
Kysaiah Pickett	2.975	9
Angus Brayshaw	2.925	10
Harrison Petty	2.850	11
Jake Lever	2.775	12
Max Gawn #	2.625	13
James Harmes	2.500	14
Jayden Hunt	2.100	15
Bayley Fritsch	2.075	16
Charlie Spargo	2.050	17
Jack Viney	2.025	18
Luke Jackson #	1.675	19
Trent Rivers	1.600	20
Alex N-Bullen	1.550	21
Ben Brown	1.500	22
Team Score	64.05
Top 6	26.60
Bottom 6	10.40

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

Edited July 8, 2021 by Rusty Nails

[Kent 2,906]

7 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

Rnd 17, 2021 MCG - Power vs Demons

Disposals Per Goal  29.6 % In50s Goal 26.7 Conversion % 46.2

Significant improvement in all of the above forward indicators from last week's effort against GWS....

Disposals Per Goal	54.0
% In50s Goal	12.4
Conversion %	35.0

Tracc's equal best result in these tables for the year.  Same weighted score against the Tigers in Rnd 6.  Clarry bouncing back with another top of the table result.

May, Macca & Salem rounding out the top five.  Petty's best result for the season beating his 2.475 against the Lions in Rnd 12.

Still some work to do with the team score about 5.8% off the season average.

Player	Score	Rank
Clayton Oliver	5.900	1
Christian Petracca	5.125	2
Steven May	4.200	3
Tom McDonald #	3.875	4
Christian Salem	3.800	5
Ed Langdon	3.700	6
Michael Hibberd	3.200	7
James Jordon	3.025	8
Kysaiah Pickett	2.975	9
Angus Brayshaw	2.925	10
Harrison Petty	2.850	11
Jake Lever	2.775	12
Max Gawn #	2.625	13
James Harmes	2.500	14
Jayden Hunt	2.100	15
Bayley Fritsch	2.075	16
Charlie Spargo	2.050	17
Jack Viney	2.025	18
Luke Jackson #	1.675	19
Trent Rivers	1.600	20
Alex N-Bullen	1.550	21
Ben Brown	1.500	22
Team Score	64.05
Top 6	26.60
Bottom 6	10.40

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

Thanks Rusty Love this weekly analysis

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

Weighted Average Scores up to & including Rnd 17, 2021 vs 2019

Cheers Kent.

May slips into second spot for the first time this season neck and neck with Salem.  Viney out of the the top 10 dropping two places to 11th.  Leap frogged by JJ and Gus into 9th and 10th respectively.

Player	2021 Score	2021 Rank	2019 Score	% Change vs 2019	2019 Rank	Change in Rank vs 2019
C Oliver	5.334	1	4.643	14.88	1	0
Steven May	4.163	2	2.446	70.20	14	12
C Salem	4.153	3	3.658	13.53	3	0
C Petracca	3.955	4	2.616	51.19	10	6
Jake Lever	3.573	5	2.313	54.47	17	12
J Harmes	3.513	6	3.850	-8.75	2	-4
Max Gawn #	3.469	7	3.256	6.54	4	-3
Ed Langdon	3.412	8
James Jordan	3.122	9
A Brayshaw	3.069	10	2.894	6.05	6	-4
Jack Viney	3.003	11	3.068	-2.12	5	-6
T McDonald #	2.758	12	2.150	28.28	19	7
Jayden Hunt	2.532	13	1.958	29.32	22	9
Trent Rivers	2.520	14
M Hibberd	2.488	15	2.124	17.14	20	5
M Brown*	2.475	16
A Tomlinson	2.475	16
L Jackson #	2.385	18
K Pickett	2.363	19
Oskar Baker*	2.325	20	1.714	35.65	29	9
Alex N-Bullen	2.284	21	1.984	15.12	21	0
Nathan Jones	2.214	22	2.711	-18.33	7	-15
Tom Sparrow	2.155	23	1.075	100.47	37	14
Bayley Fritsch	2.077	24	2.641	-21.36	9	-15
H Petty	2.000	25	1.905	4.99	24	-1
Charlie Spargo	1.988	26	1.375	44.58	35	9
J Melksham	1.984	27	1.931	2.74	23	-4
Neville Jetta	1.865	28	2.264	-17.62	18	-10
Ben Brown #	1.556	29
S Weideman	1.055	30	1.818	-41.97	27	-3
K Chandler*	0.250	31
Average Team Score - Top 22	67.59		59.62	13.35

Hit outs to advantage not captured

* Only played one match not an average score

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

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Rnd 18, 2021 MCG - Demons vs Hawks

Our last three matches (team weighted score) have been on average about 5% up on our abysmal 2019 season average.  And about 6.8% off our season average so far this year (to Rnd 17).  That's a number that won't cut it in Finals.  Let's hope some of the boys are able to take it to another level in the last few rounds.

DE% of 66.7% against the Hawks is also way off the AFL average of approx 73%.  Again you will struggle against most teams with that sort of skill level.  Previous weeks it was 74% (Power) and 75.4% (Giants).  Against the Giants we again failed to make the most of our forward entries however.  So it shows it doesn't matter what you do up the ground.  If you aren't delivering / converting very well you're toast.

Spargo was our best ball user (outside of defenders) running at 81.8% efficiency with ANB our worst offender at 46.2%  Might have gone a little heavy on the engagement celebrations!

A few other stats worth noting ...

Turnover Kings ?  Clarry headed this up with a massive 10!  Followed by Viney 8, Lever JJ & Hibb on 6 each

Score Involvements ? Gus 9, Kozzie 8, AVB & Spargo on 7, Tracc & Fritta on 6

Tackles ?  Viney the stand out here with a massive 11.  Next best Clarry with 6.  Dropped off from there.

Marks inside 50 ? Fritta the main target here with 4.  I doubt we'll win too many big games (finals) with him as the main target but who knows.

Player	Score	Rank
C Oliver	4.800	1
C Petracca	4.700	2
Jack Viney	4.400	3
Jake Lever	4.350	4
C Salem	3.975	5
A Brayshaw	3.675	6
A Vandenberg	3.475	7
K Pickett	3.125	8
Max Gawn #	2.975	9
C Spargo	2.900	10
Steven May	2.850	11
Trent Rivers	2.500	12
Bayley Fritsch	2.300	13
Jayden Hunt	2.275	14
M Hibberd	2.250	15
Ed Langdon	2.225	16
H Petty	2.175	17
Ben Brown	2.025	18
James Jordon	1.875	19
T McDonald #	1.250	20
Alex N-Bullen	1.050	21
Luke Jackson #	1.000	22
Team Score	62.15
Top 6	25.90
Bottom 6	9.38

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

Edited July 18, 2021 by Rusty Nails

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Weighted Average Scores up to & including Rnd 18, 2021 vs 2019

Dogga the worry in the last three matches dropping from a rank of 15 in round 15 to a lowly 21st now.  Given he had 15 games under his belt at Rnd 15 that's a fairly significant fall (statistically) with averages in play.

Do we risk bringing in Melk for Dogga who can hit up players inside 50 at times and also occasionally hit the scoreboard himself?  I like Dogga's work in the middle though!  We do need a player who can finish with that kick coming inside.  We're pretty ordinary in this area.  Max then plays almost a full game in the middle/around the ground with occasional chop out up forward from Macca.  Melk in for Dogga allows Melk and Kozzie to mix it up, sharing a role through the middle and HF?

Also, what happens when Harmes becomes available once more?  Who goes out assuming he is straight back in?  I would think he would come straight back given his form since coming in.  Does ANB miss for Harmes and AVB stays?

Player	2021 Score	2021 Rank	2019 Score	% Change vs 2019	2019 Rank	Change in Rank vs 2019
C Oliver	5.303	1	4.643	14.21	1	0
C Salem	4.142	2	3.658	13.23	3	1
Steven May	4.077	3	2.446	66.68	14	11
C Petracca	3.999	4	2.616	52.87	10	6
Jake Lever	3.619	5	2.313	56.46	17	12
J Harmes	3.513	6	3.850	-8.75	2	-4
A Vandenberg*	3.475	7
Max Gawn #	3.440	8	3.256	5.65	4	-4
Ed Langdon	3.338	9
Jack Viney	3.158	10	3.068	2.93	5	-5
A Brayshaw	3.104	11	2.894	7.26	6	-5
James Jordan	3.044	12
T McDonald #	2.669	13	2.150	24.14	19	6
Trent Rivers	2.519	14
Jayden Hunt	2.516	15	1.958	28.50	22	7
M Brown*	2.475	16
A Tomlinson	2.475	16
M Hibberd	2.469	18	2.124	16.24	20	2
K Pickett	2.407	19
Oskar Baker*	2.325	20	1.714	35.65	29	9
L Jackson #	2.298	21
Nathan Jones	2.214	22	2.711	-18.33	7	-15
Alex N-Bullen	2.212	23	1.984	11.49	21	-2
Tom Sparrow	2.155	24	1.075	100.47	37	13
Bayley Fritsch	2.091	25	2.641	-20.83	9	-16
Charlie Spargo	2.041	26	1.375	48.44	35	9
H Petty	2.016	27	1.905	5.83	24	-3
J Melksham	1.984	28	1.931	2.74	23	-5
Neville Jetta	1.865	29	2.264	-17.62	18	-11
Ben Brown #	1.650	30
S Weideman	1.055	31	1.818	-41.97	27	-4
K Chandler*	0.250	32

Hit outs to advantage not captured

* Only played one match not an average score

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

Edited July 18, 2021 by Rusty Nails

[buck_nekkid 5,846]

I agree, we won’t win finals with that DE%, overall score or pressure.  Our ability to handle pressure and even get clean ball in the clear was way off.  Dogga is a worry, indeed.  Thanks for posting the data, Rusty 

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On 7/18/2021 at 7:30 PM, buck_nekkid said:

I agree, we won’t win finals with that DE%, overall score or pressure.  Our ability to handle pressure and even get clean ball in the clear was way off.  Dogga is a worry, indeed.  Thanks for posting the data, Rusty 

No worries buck.  If we win the next two/three matches, IF, we just might be in a position to start managing a few of the boys that might need it and freshen them up for finals?  That's assuming a finals series is held with the continuous lockdown merry go round that's occurring.

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Rnd 19, 2021 MCG - Bulldogs vs Demons

The Hunters revert to the hunted once again (with a few exceptions).  Too meek and mild for 3 quarters tonight from most.  Some very poor match day coaching IMV also cost us dearly today.

Our worst Team Score for the season.  7.7% worse than the 2019 season average and a massive 19.8% off this season's average until last week!  Easily our worst score from the top 6 for the season by a fair margin also.  Probably Linger's worst game for the year as well (statistically). 

DE% of 60% is not going to win you many games either.  Yes it was wet, but same for both teams.  Doggies ran at 69%.

We over used the ball too much as well with 41 disposals per goal vs the Doggies 28.

Dogga was our best ball user (outside of defenders) running at 88.9% efficiency.  Tracc our worst at 35.5% overall.

A few other stats worth noting ...

Turnover Kings ?  Clarry leading for second week with a massive 11!  Followed by ANB 7, Tracc 6, Lingers & Hunt with 5 each.

Score Involvements ? Viney 7, Clarry & BB 6 with Hunt & Fritta 5 each.

Tackles ?  Viney leading for the second week in a row with 9.  Next best Kozzie & Harmes 8 with ANB & Tracc both on 7

Marks inside 50 ? BB the main target here with 4

Meters gained ? Hunt 548, Clarry 404, Tracc 390, Viney 371, Lever 362

Intercept Kings ? Lever 15, Hunt 9 with Clarry Rivers & Salem the next best on 6 each.

Player	Score	Rank
Jake Lever	4.675	1
C Oliver	4.225	2
Jack Viney	3.750	3
Jayden Hunt	3.175	4
J Harmes	2.950	5
Trent Rivers	2.950	5
C Salem	2.900	7
C Petracca	2.875	8
Alex N-Bullen	2.850	9
Steven May	2.725	10
Max Gawn #	2.575	11
K Pickett	2.125	12
A Brayshaw	2.050	13
M Hibberd	2.025	14
C Spargo	1.900	15
T McDonald #	1.850	16
J Jordon	1.775	17
L Jackson #	1.725	18
B Fritsch	1.700	19
Ben Brown	1.675	20
H Petty	1.350	21
Ed Langdon	1.200	22
Team Score	55.03
Top 6	21.73
Bottom 6	9.43

# Hit outs to advantage not captured

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

Edited July 24, 2021 by Rusty Nails

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Weighted Average Scores up to & including Rnd 19, 2021 vs 2019

Player	2021 Score	2021 Rank	2019 Score	% Change vs 2019	2019 Rank	Change in Rank vs 2019
C Oliver	5.243	1	4.643	12.92	1	0
C Salem	4.069	2	3.448	18.01	3	1
Steven May	3.994	3	2.446	63.29	14	11
C Petracca	3.936	4	2.616	50.46	10	6
Jake Lever	3.678	5	2.313	59.01	17	12
A Vandenberg*	3.475	6
J Harmes	3.461	7	3.850	-10.10	2	-5
Max Gawn #	3.392	8	3.256	4.18	4	-4
Jack Viney	3.218	9	3.068	4.89	5	-4
Ed Langdon	3.212	10
A Brayshaw	3.046	11	2.894	5.25	6	-5
James Jordan	2.969	12
T McDonald #	2.624	13	2.150	22.05	19	6
Jayden Hunt	2.554	14	1.958	30.44	22	8
Trent Rivers	2.543	15
M Brown*	2.475	16
A Tomlinson	2.475	16
M Hibberd	2.438	18	2.124	14.78	20	2
K Pickett	2.392	19
Oskar Baker*	2.325	20	1.714	35.65	29	9
L Jackson #	2.265	21
Alex N-Bullen	2.247	22	1.984	13.26	21	-1
Nathan Jones	2.214	23	2.711	-18.33	7	-16
Tom Sparrow	2.155	24	1.075	100.47	37	13
Bayley Fritsch	2.068	25	2.641	-21.70	9	-16
Charlie Spargo	2.033	26	1.375	47.85	35	9
J Melksham	1.984	27	1.931	2.74	23	-4
H Petty	1.960	28	1.905	2.89	24	-4
Neville Jetta	1.865	29	2.264	-17.62	18	-11
Ben Brown #	1.654	30
S Weideman	1.055	31	1.818	-41.97	27	-4
K Chandler*	0.250	32
Average Team Score - Top 22	68.03		59.62	14.10

Hit outs to advantage not captured

* Only played one match not an average score

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

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Pre Bye (Rnds 1-13) vs Post Bye (Rnds 15-19) Player Review, Season 2021

Given all the chatter about where we are at after the bye i thought i would review each player's accessible data (some anyway!)  and take a look at their (statistical) form pre vs post the bye.

All data based on averages.  Obviously better to have more data than less but sometimes it is also helpful just to compare a later block of matches to an earlier block as a rough indicator of where a player might be trending in terms of form.

I'll work my way down from highest jumper number to lowest as quickly as i can.

BB first up with data a little shakey here given only 3 games played both pre and post bye.  Some of the large percentage changes here reflect the small data set for BB.  5 games minimum either side feels a bit more robust but including BB here as part of this review for interests sake.  I won't be including anyone with less than three games either side of the bye here in case you are wondering why they might have been left out...

#50          B Brown	Rnds     1 - 13	Rnds 15 - 19	% Change Post Bye
CP	5.67	5.67	0.0
UP	4.00	5.00	25.0
ED	5.33	5.67	6.3
DE%	61.13	51.83	-9.3
CM	1.00	1.33	33.3
Mi50	2.33	2.00	-14.3
1%	1.33	2.33	75.0
CL	0.00	0.00	0.0
R50	0.00	0.00	0.0
i50	0.67	3.00	350.0
T	0.67	1.67	150.0
Si	4.33	4.67	7.7
MG	172.33	227.00	31.7
TO	2.00	2.00	0.0
ITC	1.33	0.33	-75.0
T5	0.67	1.33	100.0
TOG%	77.33	81.00	4.7
G	1.67	1.00	-40.0

CP = Contested Possessions  UP = Uncontested Possessions  ED = Effective Disposals  DE% = Disposal Efficiency %  CM = Contested Mark

Mi50 = Marks inside 50  1% = One Percenter  CL = Clearances  R50 = Rebound 50  i50 = Inside 50s  T = Tackles  Si = Score Involvements

MG = Meters Gained  TO = Turnovers  ITC = Intercepts  T5 = Tackles inside 50  TOG% = Time on Ground %  G = Goals 

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

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Pre Bye (Rnds 1-13) vs Post Bye (Rnds 15-19) Player Review, Season 2021

Kozzie has played all matches this season.  13 matches Pre & 5 Post

#36          K Pickett	Rnds    1 - 13	Rnds 15 - 19	% Change Post Bye
CP	6.62	5.00	-24.4
UP	6.54	5.40	-17.4
ED	7.92	6.40	-19.2
DE%	59.28	65.24	6.0
CM	0.15	0.20	30.0
Mi50	1.23	1.20	-2.5
1%	1.00	0.80	-20.0
CL	1.23	1.00	-18.8
R50	0.38	0.40	4.0
i50	2.54	1.80	-29.1
T	3.62	4.60	27.2
Si	5.62	5.00	-11.0
MG	240.15	187.00	-22.1
TO	2.15	2.20	2.1
ITC	1.62	1.20	-25.7
T5	1.62	1.80	11.4
TOG%	77.85	73.60	-4.2
G	1.54	1.60	4.0

CP = Contested Possessions  UP = Uncontested Possessions  ED = Effective Disposals  DE% = Disposal Efficiency %  CM = Contested Mark

Mi50 = Marks inside 50  1% = One Percenter  CL = Clearances  R50 = Rebound 50  i50 = Inside 50s  T = Tackles  Si = Score Involvements

MG = Meters Gained  TO = Turnovers  ITC = Intercepts  T5 = Tackles inside 50  TOG% = Time on Ground %  G = Goals 

Stats courtesy of footywire.com

Edited July 26, 2021 by Rusty Nails