Surely addictive products are an area that does warrant deep regulation at least.

It is conceivable that pokies could be offered in an ethical, non-life-destroying way, but then they wouldn't make much money would they? I mean, they are machines for stimulating addiction and 'servicing' that addiction in exchange for money.

Setting aside personal philosophies on the role of government in modern society, anyone who chooses to make their money by exploiting addiction is an 4rse.

Unfortunately, at the moment that still includes our football club. The sooner the better as far as establishing ourselves with more ethical and 'community club appropriate' alternative income streams.

30 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Just a general belief.  There are exceptions to everything.

Not about to start having a D&M.

But no, taxpayers funded the car industry for way too long.

And they'll continue to do so in government benefits and other miscellaneous subsidies for those who are now out of work.

23 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Surely addictive products are an area that does warrant deep regulation at least.

It is conceivable that pokies could be offered in an ethical, non-life-destroying way, but then they wouldn't make much money would they? I mean, they are machines for stimulating addiction and 'servicing' that addiction in exchange for money.

Setting aside personal philosophies on the role of government in modern society, anyone who chooses to make their money by exploiting addiction is an 4rse.

Unfortunately, at the moment that still includes our football club. The sooner the better as far as establishing ourselves with more ethical and 'community club appropriate' alternative income streams.

I took my son to Playtime a couple of months ago and it was a bit disconcerting how much the flashing lights and loud noises reminded me of the pokies floor at Crown. Just trying to hook 'em while their young.

I've also heard that pokie machines in Vic pay out less than the ones in Vegas for example. The Vic ones are programmed to win 92% of the time while the ones in Vegas are 88% (something like that anyway). I can understand playing cards, roulette etc because there is an element of chance and strategy - but with pokies you are literally feeding money into a computer that is programmed to win. I cannot understand anyone who does it.

As a "social experiment" I performed once while drunk I wanted to see how quickly I could lose $100 in the pokies while I went to the local to pick up some more booze. It wouldn't have even been 30 seconds playing max lines/max dollars before by $100 was gone. It's crazy that 1) it's legal and 2) people get sucked in to handing their money over to the "one armed bandits"

1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I took my son to Playtime a couple of months ago and it was a bit disconcerting how much the flashing lights and loud noises reminded me of the pokies floor at Crown. Just trying to hook 'em while their young.

I've also heard that pokie machines in Vic pay out less than the ones in Vegas for example. The Vic ones are programmed to win 92% of the time while the ones in Vegas are 88% (something like that anyway). I can understand playing cards, roulette etc because there is an element of chance and strategy - but with pokies you are literally feeding money into a computer that is programmed to win. I cannot understand anyone who does it.

As a "social experiment" I performed once while drunk I wanted to see how quickly I could lose $100 in the pokies while I went to the local to pick up some more booze. It wouldn't have even been 30 seconds playing max lines/max dollars before by $100 was gone. It's crazy that 1) it's legal and 2) people get sucked in to handing their money over to the "one armed bandits"

Yes Dr it beggars belief but so does taking Ice and Heroin but a large number in the community do.

I cannot understand why you would put something in your body that has not quality control on its manufacture let alone the other problems.

4 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Perfect example of indoctrinated ideology. "Free market works best" is just a faith-based sound bite that is not supported by any evidence, just like "trickle down economics" and "Jesus will return".

It's not about making an "industry" work, it's about making an economy and society work. It seems it's only OK for government and taxpayers to make certain industries work but not others.

"One week at a time" or "level playing field" the football equivalent Dr G?

Edited June 8, 20169 yr by Moonshadow