32 minutes ago, AngryAtCasey said:

I don't advertise myself as being any type of prophet or knowing exactly what the coaching group are looking for.  All I commented on were my observations on Saturday Night.  As I said, I didn't say he was bad, but for me he didn't impose himself on the game to the extent Trengove or even Petracca did who stood out like a sore thumb when he got the pill.

If the coaching staff were happy with Viv's game then that's a good thing and I wish him well at breaking into the seniors.  But for me he's been solid without being great and I thought he was better Round 1 then he was Round 3, but that's just my opinion.

No offence intended Angry. I Like your reviews and do not understand how you can keep it all in your head. I did not see the game live on Saturday and was a little surprised at the difference between Demonland assesments and the Coaches assessment.  

45 minutes ago, Samael said:

No offence intended Angry. I Like your reviews and do not understand how you can keep it all in your head. I did not see the game live on Saturday and was a little surprised at the difference between Demonland assesments and the Coaches assessment.  

This will happen often due to players playing a role and people going to see the game having a completely different perspective/angle/information provided than th coaching staff. 

Roles/statistics are hard to understand from the sidelines and the fact that he may have been completely fumbly and turn the football over in the times he was seen by posters. 

 

Coaches opinions v posters opinions will be completely different, whilst coaches are much more objective the bias from posters will come into play....not that you have any at all either

1 minute ago, Mad_Melbourne said:

This will happen often due to players playing a role and people going to see the game having a completely different perspective/angle/information provided than th coaching staff. 

Roles/statistics are hard to understand from the sidelines and the fact that he may have been completely fumbly and turn the football over in the times he was seen by posters. 

 

Coaches opinions v posters opinions will be completely different, whilst coaches are much more objective the bias from posters will come into play....not that you have any at all either

Agree with you sentiment. Yep I am biased. We all have favorite players. I find others opinions on players I don't particularly follow helpful and have been watching Casey replays to go back and watch players I have not watched closely. The only opinions that matter are the selection panel. But I also like reading others perspectives. 

Nice player, but not enough hurt factor with Mitchie. 

Depth

8 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Nice player, but not enough hurt factor with Mitchie. 

Depth

Horse feathers.

4 hours ago, Baghdad Bob said:

Samuel where do you see Viv?  When he came a few years ago our midfield stocks were very low but now they appear to be overflowing.  Viney, Vince, Jones, Oliver, Brayshaw, AVB, Trengove, Tyson and ANB all seem to be in front of him.  Then there are the forward/mids/winger types like Kennedy, Harmes, Kent, Stretch, M Jones and Petracca all competing for spots he might fill.

It's hard to see him getting a go and it must be hard for him to maintain his enthusiasm.  Any thoughts?

Isn't the question mark on Viv his ability to run both ways - ie: attack and defensive ability

Can rack 'em up but doesn't do much damage? That's the perception I have but I confess I don't watch him that closely....

28 minutes ago, willmoy said:

Horse feathers.

Vanilla.

3 hours ago, Samael said:

No offence intended Angry. I Like your reviews and do not understand how you can keep it all in your head. I did not see the game live on Saturday and was a little surprised at the difference between Demonland assesments and the Coaches assessment.  

All good mate. I'm a fan of Viv myself and was wrapped when we got him from Freo. The fact we have players like Viv, Trengove, Petracca, Stretch & Neal-Bullen as depth is certainly a good problem to have.

I watched the first half of the Willy game on the MFC website last night. Notes:

Trengove was very clean and skilful, looks very fit and reads the play very well. He looks a class above VFL. There is a big jump in pace up to AFL footy, but I went to bed with increased confidence that he can make a successful AFL return. (I was a bit sceptical beforehand.)

Petracca was not all that impressive. (He was better in the first quarter against Collingwood.) His decision making was ordinary and he struggled to get involved at stoppages. He also needs to improve his transition running. He reminded me a lot of Colin Sylvia as a midfielder to be honest. In the AFL, I expect him to play as a small key position forward for the first half of his career (at least).

Michie played a good serviceable game and was clean with ball in hand.

Newton was also very clean and classy.

Grimes and Terlich played like Grimes and Terlich.

Garland made a few mistakes and is clearly under instruction to take the game on more often. He looks athletically well above VFL level. I still think he can get back to being a good AFL player if he can get his touch back.

Both Weideman and Hulett look at least 12 months away from senior footy.

Max King moves well and is skilled, but is still far too weak to play in the ruck.

Stretch played mostly on the ball and was a little disappointing. He found the ball, but wasn’t as clean as he usually is. I actually think he is better suited to AFL than VFL, where the game can be a bit scrappy.