Statistical Improvement?

[rpfc 28,347]

Well constructed, because it shows up where we have improved. DIsposa lefficiency is an area that needs rating. Also some criteria summarising pressure between the Half forward and half back lines. No pressure there means the defence get HAMMERED (like yesterday)

DE% is not one of my favourite stats. I find it misleading. Teams that overpossess with hands or with short kicks in the backline will have a high DE% but will be ineffectual.

Pressure through the middle is important, not sure what metrics would be ideal to measure that.

Usually UPs Differential will indicate whether one team or the other is providing enough defensive run. We also had 23 more clangers than St Kilda (69-46) which doesn't help...

Edited May 1, 2016 by rpfc

[praha 11,240]

2 hours ago, rpfc said:

Let's get this out of the way:

	CL	I50	UPs	CPs	Score	QW
Rd 1: GWS	-6	6	1	-4	2	2
Rd 2: Ess	5	-15	-134	-4	-13	0
Rd 3: NM	17	12	15	32	-5	2
Rd 4: Coll	-5	1	17	4	35	3
Rd 5: Rich	3	0	74	11	33	3
Rd 6: StK	12	-2	-33	-10	-39	2

Beaten in UPs and CPs - that usually means just one thing...

 

And the season:

2016 Differential	4.33	0.40	-12.00	5.80	2.60
2016 Melbourne Ave	39.8	54.7	223.0	150.3	100.8
	CL	I50	Ups	CPs	Score
2015 Differential	-3.1	-9.0	-12.0	-0.9	-21.4
2015 Melbourne Ave	37.6	44.5	203.5	135.2	71.5

 

That uncontested possession stat is quite damning. Against both Essendon and the Saints, the team's flatness and inability to mark players has been abysmal. 

Damn it, we should have beaten North.

[dimmy 1,307]

At least the arguments presented here are factual . They also show that when things work we are getting better.

I can concede your argument rpfc re UP

This is despite having TMac,Pedersen,Watts,Dunn,Lamumba,Jetta,Tyson,Hogan,Vince,Kennedy,Garlett,Brayshaw, Petracca, Wagner,Harmes,Hunt,Frost,Gawn,Viney,Bugg,etc( All average to fair VFL Players) in the side.and having Oliver ANB,MIchie,Trengrove,Grimes,Garland not in the side. A week ago there were copious arguments for presenting a submission to the AFL for a 30 man side because we had so many good players to pick from. A week seems an eternity in football (even without a Tigers or Magpies crisis

Edited May 1, 2016 by dimmy

[The Backyard Charizard 1,202]

43 minutes ago, dimmy said:

At least the arguments presented here are factual . They also show that when things work we are getting better.

I can concede your argument rpfc re UP

This is despite having TMac,Pedersen,Watts,Dunn,Lamumba,Jetta,Tyson,Hogan,Vince,Kennedy,Garlett,Brayshaw, Petracca, Wagner,Harmes,Hunt,Frost,Gawn,Viney,Bugg,etc( All average to fair VFL Players) in the side.and having Oliver ANB,MIchie,Trengrove,Grimes,Garland not in the side. A week ago there were copious arguments for presenting a submission to the AFL for a 30 man side because we had so many good players to pick from. A week seems an eternity in football (even without a Tigers or Magpies crisis

I am trying to re-read your post to find the sarcasm a person must require to be naming the players in bold as "average to fair VFL players" 

I have gone ultra conservative and only highlighted the borderline "elite AFL players"

You sir, are one cooked unit 

[rpfc 28,347]

	CL	I50	UPs	CPs	Score	QW
Rd 1: GWS	-6	6	1	-4	2	2
Rd 2: Ess	5	-15	-134	-4	-13	0
Rd 3: NM	17	12	15	32	-5	2
Rd 4: Coll	-5	1	17	4	35	3
Rd 5: Rich	3	0	74	11	33	3
Rd 6: StK	12	-2	-33	-10	-39	2
Rd 7: GC	18	40	61	36	73	3

 

Utter domination from start to finish - stifled in the first half, irresistible in the second. Never seen us dominate the I50s count like that since...ever.
 

2016 Differential	6.3	6.0	0.1	9.3	12.3	15
2016 Melbourne Ave	41.0	57.6	225.4	153.0	109.3
	CL	I50	Ups	CPs	Score	QW
2015 Differential	-3.1	-9.0	-12.0	-0.9	-21.4	35
2015 Melbourne Ave	37.6	44.5	203.5	135.2	71.5

Again, rate of improvement is astounding. I am waiting for a smoothing out of the numbers but hoping for a statistical improbability of improvement.

[Phadraig 760]

Our inside 50's stat compared to the competition is pretty crazy     

                                      Total     Ave

1 Sydney Swans            456     65.1

2 Western Bulldogs       411      58.7

3 Geelong Cats             408      58.3

4 Melbourne                  403      57.6

Edited May 8, 2016 by Rafiki

[Adam The God 30,209]

11 minutes ago, Rafiki said:

Our inside 50's stat compared to the competition is pretty crazy     

                                      Total     Ave

1 Sydney Swans            456     65.1

2 Western Bulldogs       411      58.7

3 Geelong Cats             408      58.3

4 Melbourne                  403      57.6

Better efficiency going forward, better forward structures and more games into our young guns and that spells excitement.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

A good time to post my version of what rpfc does here - I go back to the end of Neeld/start of Roos and just look at the key stats in differential (margin, clearances and inside 50s).
The washup is that our side right now averages a 12 point win compared to a 56 point loss in Neeld's final year. 11 goal+ turnaround. You can see this is accompanied by a positive trend in basically every stat, every season, for 4 years. What is most crazy for mine is that we said at the start of the year that we would now be focusing on attack. We now are the 4th highest scorers having increased our weekly score by 38 points in one season. That is walking the walk after talking the talk. Also we are getting 13 more inside 50s each week, a giant increase, which IMO is the result of an elite ruck/rover combo plus Oliver and some return to form from Tyson.

season	pf	pa	apf	apa	amarg	ai50f	ai50a	ai50diff	aclrf	aclra	aclrdiff	wins	ladder
2013	1455	2691	66.1	122.3	-56.2	40.0	58	-18.0	32.8	42.3	-9.5	2	17
2014	1336	1954	60.7	88.8	-28.1	40.5	52.1	-11.6	34.2	39.2	-5	4	17
2015	1573	2044	71.5	92.9	-21.4	44.4	53.4	-9.0	37.6	40.9	-3.3	7	13
2016	765	679	109.3	97.0	12.3	57.6	51.1	6.5	41	34.7	6.3	4*	9