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Wrong.

I dont have stats, but he generally misses set shots. If I had to guess Id say Dawes then Hogan were better by far. I bring it up because many posters say that Watts best attribute is his kicking.

I think Dawes not only is most times a good set shot but is ready to contest hard for the ball. Watts never does this. They both fall short on contested marks, in my jaundiced view.

Jack Watts has kicked 7.3 from set shots this year.

Maybe check before you generalise?

Edited by Dr. Mubutu

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Terrible kicks: Grimes, McDonald, Lumumba, Bail, Matt Jones, Spencer....I could go on

Great kicks: ???

I'm not too worried about our inside mids and half forwards kicking. Yeah I'd rather a few more who can accurately spear it like Watts, Jones and Garlett, but I'll take speed and grunt of Vanders, Kent and Brayshaw and the ball winning ability of the likes of Tyson and Viney.

But the backline and outside midfield is where you need guys who can hit targets under pressure. We've got Dunn and Salem, that's about it. Jetta doesn't burn the ball too much but isn't a high possession winner. Stretch looks solid. Newton can seriously kick a footy he just can't get in the team regularly from what I've seen so far.

I'm keen to see Oscar McDonald because the pre draft talk was that he could kick much better than his brother. And I so desire for Tom to keep improving because he keeps finding so much of the ball he just desperately needs to use it better.

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So I went looking.

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/season/statistics

He has kicked 9.6 this year.

He has averaged .5 goals per game.

It doesnt give a stat for totally missing everything.

I think he is more likely to kick the difficult ones from the boundary rather than straight in front. In any case its not great.

Posted (edited)

Wrong.

I dont have stats, but he generally misses set shots. If I had to guess Id say Dawes then Hogan were better by far. I bring it up because many posters say that Watts best attribute is his kicking.

I think Dawes not only is most times a good set shot but is ready to contest hard for the ball. Watts never does this. They both fall short on contested marks, in my jaundiced view.

From 40 out directly in front, he's kicked many, many more than he's missed and I'd prefer it in his hands than any other demon.

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Can't agree with that. Watts has a good technique and doesn't miss too many.

Agree with the gist of this thread, particularly Garry Lyon's comments. Melbourne don't have enough skilled distributors. Jones and Salem are excellent kicks, Watts and Vince are very good and Hogan's field kicking is impressive for a big guy. Brayshaw has depth of both feet and makes good decisions but is still a baby (and I still wouldn't call his kicking 'great'). Dunn and Lumumba are long kicks but not particularly accurate ones. The rest are all average or below average. It especially kills us having the likes of Howe, Garland, Cross, Grimes etc butchering the ball coming out of defence and Dawes/Garlett who often make clanger kicks forward of centre.

i'd have to say watt's kicking has been off the last month

missed set shots, too-short passes, kicking turnovers. he is getting more of he ball but disposal a bit sloppy fr his standards

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Yes, and by comparison, the player that many Demonlanders would have liked to have seen playing for us, Nic Natanui, is rated the second worst kick in the AFL.

Who is rated the worst CB?

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The thread title says it all. Brilliant, and encapsulates what most of us have been thinking in an around-about way.

St.Kilda under Pelchen have obvously targetted good kicks?

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