I can't imagine how Roos could have done any better in the timeframe than what he has done. If I were him I'd have aimed for the following;

YEAR 1 - SOLIDIFY THE DEFENCE

Tick! (shaved 6-7 goals a game off?)

YEAR 2 - START SCORING MORE

Started well against GC Round 1. Two things he could do here would be;

1) Drop his estimation of Chris Dawes to a VFL regular 'depth' player.

2) Put Watts and Howe in the forward line without Dawes there.

That would get us the extra goals against most opposition.

YEAR 3 - OPERATION MIDFIELD!

Let's face it the reason for 100 point drubbings is the appallingly under-developed midfield. Third year Roosy would be all about a maturing midfield and bringing in more players.

One year on, Brayshaw, Petracca, Tyson, Viney, Sheil (wouldn't that be nice!) will be better. Then hopefully Toumpas or Stretch or ANB or even Trengove become regulars.

If he can achieve this then he is a genius. Currently the club playing for him and growing in confidence. Culturally we are almost cherry ripe finally, just need to get those pieces in place and we are pushing above the Tigers into the top 8 realm.

The only player on the list who has improved is McDonald and, as a developing key position player, he was always going to improve as he got more experience. Most of the list have gone backwards - significantly so in the case of players like Howe and Watts. We pay big money to guys like Dawes, Lumumba and Vince to prance around doing sweet FA.

To be fair I've seen great improvement in Tyson, Jetta, Dunn, Jones, Salem under Roos so he has developed some players.

for some reason everyone is just playing like sh1te right at the minute.

I can't for the life of me understand why Paul Roos is not copping the same scrutiny as Malthouse (or indeed that Neeld copped in his last year). Roos' last 17 games have resulted in 2 wins and 15 losses. Percentage in that time is 62% (61 points for, 99 against). We have been seriously competitive in maybe 5 of those games, and embarrassing in the rest.

I have seen nothing in Roos' time to suggest that he has any idea how to coach on match day. As soon as the initial match ups are blown away, he is totally bereft of ideas. When have we ever seen this team come out of a break and turn a game around, or even just dig their heels in and fight for 15 minutes?

The only player on the list who has improved is McDonald and, as a developing key position player, he was always going to improve as he got more experience. Most of the list have gone backwards - significantly so in the case of players like Howe and Watts. We pay big money to guys like Dawes, Lumumba and Vince to prance around doing sweet FA.

I'm sure people will say that Roos needs time to build a list. That is complete crap. He has recruited half of the list, and re-contracted most of the others. As far as I am aware, Jamar and McKenzie are the only players on the list who have not had a new contract in Roos' time. Guys such as Bail, M.Jones, Riley and others offer nothing, but they have been given new deals and countless opprtunities. I was no fan of Neeld, but he had a comparable winning percentage to Roos with a far weaker playing list. And he cost us about a third as much for the privilege.

Because Paul Roos inherited a rabble. I think Roos underestimated how bad of shape the MFC was in.

He has a big job ahead of him, but let's not pretend it is an easy job. MFC was the most poorly run team in the history of the AFL.

Things were never just going to turn around like they did at Port. Roos has the job ahead of him, and it will take time.

IMO we will improve around 2018-2019, presently we just have too much drift wood on our list.

Just in response to the comparison between neeld and Roos

In neelds year and a half in charge we won 6 games 5 against expansion sides who were easy beats

Lost more than 10 games of 30 odd by 80 points or more

Since Roos took over we have won 6 games, with only 2 80 point or more losses, beaten Richmond twice, the crows over there, the Suns, bombers and Carlton as well as seriously pushed the undefeated crows this year, port twice last year, the doggies twice last year and others

So the improvement is there, and the comparison is ridiculous and a knee jerk response to a disappointing loss

Pretty sure Dawes was lacking match fitness himself, and was talking in general terms.

Simply, we've been turning the ball over a lot more against superior teams the last few weeks, that means you have to run a lot more, and that eventually takes its toll. And it snowballs.

It's interesting this though. Our disposal efficiency was the highest its been in weeks against Hawthorn. It was up in the mid 70s for most of the game. Another reason that stat is bloody hell useless.

I can't imagine how Roos could have done any better in the timeframe than what he has done. If I were him I'd have aimed for the following;

YEAR 1 - SOLIDIFY THE DEFENCE

Tick! (shaved 6-7 goals a game off?)

YEAR 2 - START SCORING MORE

Started well against GC Round 1. Two things he could do here would be;

1) Drop his estimation of Chris Dawes to a VFL regular 'depth' player.

2) Put Watts and Howe in the forward line without Dawes there.

That would get us the extra goals against most opposition.

YEAR 3 - OPERATION MIDFIELD!

Let's face it the reason for 100 point drubbings is the appallingly under-developed midfield. Third year Roosy would be all about a maturing midfield and bringing in more players.

One year on, Brayshaw, Petracca, Tyson, Viney, Sheil (wouldn't that be nice!) will be better. Then hopefully Toumpas or Stretch or ANB or even Trengove become regulars.

If he can achieve this then he is a genius. Currently the club playing for him and growing in confidence. Culturally we are almost cherry ripe finally, just need to get those pieces in place and we are pushing above the Tigers into the top 8 realm.

I think our culture is still carrying a bit of scar tissue that may be irreparable. We can be so fragile mentally. You only have to watch how we go into our shells and fail to attack. That is all apart of culture, IMO.

I think our culture is still carrying a bit of scar tissue that may be irreparable. We can be so fragile mentally. You only have to watch how we go into our shells and fail to attack. That is all apart of culture, IMO.

No it's scarred by playing the 3 best teams in the competition in a row and being thrashed each time. The AFL is to blame for such a stupid draw for a mentally fragile, developing team