I think you're in denial mate. We have far too many players who are state league level at best and the ones who do have talent are either too soft or too slow/injury prone. This is going to take a long time to turn around and when we are handing out contract extensions to guys like Terlich, Riley, Bail, Spencer etc before we absolutely have to and have contracts with guys like McKenzie, Matt Jones etc still to honour it shows just how putrid our list is and how far off mid-table let alone top 4 we are.

U r spot on. We have 2 many crap players and I can't understand y they extend their contracts.

Also need to add, if it hasn't been already, that I loved the reaction from Tom McDonald when he was pinged for holding the ball in the last quarter.

Jumped up like a petulant kid who was just denied a bag of lollies from the shop by his mum.

U r spot on. We have 2 many crap players and I can't understand y they extend their contracts.

It doesn't make any sense, fine if you have to re-sign them; you can do it in October not August. Kinda puts paid to the "everyone is tradable" line when you re-sign players the week before making the comment.

I'm not necessarily against the 3 guys and not saying they should be delisted but it doesn't make sense to re-sign them just before the end of the season, it's not like they're going to be offered suitcases of cash to jump ship. Re-signing them now just limits our options not just in regard to these guys but the likes of Blease and Tapscott who clubs now know we aren't going to keep so why bother trading for them when you can just grab them as a delisted FA - they would have suspected we wouldn't be keeping them but now they know.

Norf - they've supposedly got 40,000 members yet they can only pull 17,000 to a home game a week out from finals.

We drew the same crowd to GWS at the 'G two weeks ago playing some of the worst footy ever witnessed by mankind for the 8th consecutive year.

It doesn't make any sense, fine if you have to re-sign them; you can do it in October not August. Kinda puts paid to the "everyone is tradable" line when you re-sign players the week before making the comment.

I'm not necessarily against the 3 guys and not saying they should be delisted but it doesn't make sense to re-sign them just before the end of the season, it's not like they're going to be offered suitcases of cash to jump ship. Re-signing them now just limits our options not just in regard to these guys but the likes of Blease and Tapscott who clubs now know we aren't going to keep so why bother trading for them when you can just grab them as a delisted FA - they would have suspected we wouldn't be keeping them but now they know.

The decision to re-sign all 3 players might have been made half way through the season when a number of list management decisions generally need to be made (perhaps even earlier) The club might have then decided to hold off on contract talks for a few months just because it could.

My view on all 3 is that in an ideal world they are depth players who are hard at the ball and can run 2 ways.

Bail played a lot more this year than the other 2 but next year might be a completely different story. It all depends on who we bring in and how many of those new recruits are "ready to go"

Norf - they've supposedly got 40,000 members yet they can only pull 17,000 to a home game a week out from finals.

We drew the same crowd to GWS at the 'G two weeks ago playing some of the worst footy ever witnessed by mankind for the 8th consecutive year.

Funny, I heard a Norf supporter on the radio saying we had to be the worst supporters in the AFL because we don't go to games. If they had the last 8 years in the comp we have they would not survive.

...and they can stick that Docklands ground right up their a.......I'm wouldn't send my worst enemy to that s...heap of a ground. Bring back VFL Park.

What was that! Dawes taking overhead marks, bernie hitting targets inside 50, Kent passing inside 50 even McDonald kicking goals, and there it is, Reilly sttuffing up the most basic kicks to bring me back to normal, thanks melbourne for another frustrating year. Maybe 2015 , wink wink nudge nudge , go dees!!!