12 Demons played against a Willy side that had not one AFL-list player.

If you include Troy Davis, a very reliable defender last year, we had 13 players who should be very prominent and confident.

We lost by 80 points.

I know some of you are blaming the standard of the Casey lads this year and some of you just reckon our fringe Melbourne players are crap.

But you don't lose that badly without something not being right.

Quite obviously Rowan Welsh has lost them and I suspect Brett Allison's highly critical player reviews would be losing some as well.

You don't bag players in public as Allison has been doing.

Some may also be questioning how Dom Barry, with just nine disposals (eight in Allison's review) and two tackles gets great praise for a game in which he quelled the influence of Sam Iles, who is so good, he is not on a list anymore!

That is not to say I'm not pleased that Dom will get a chance to see if he can lift at a higher level, but there would be 10 guys in that side who would have felt aggrieved at his promotion ahead of them.

Here's my remedy.

1) Give Brett Allison the next month off doing reviews - he's about as positive as Mark Neeld.

2) Get Jade Rawlings in to take over from Welshy for the rest of the season - the players all respect Rawlings. He will clearly give them Roosy's gameplan and the players will have confidence that he has Roosy's ear when it comes to selection.

3) If we are not broke, lure a couple of in-form players from country or amo's on a three or four-game trial basis with the aim of having a look at them to see if they might be up to AFL rookie list level next season.

Allison was at North for years, has plenty of experience, is trusted by Roosy and is highly regarded.

Then again, Mark Neeld was also highly regarded.

You're right about Welsh, he gave them a serve publicly a few weeks back, and whilst he wasn't wrong, it's time to go.

The problem for Casey is that they can't find anyone else. They lost Lovett who was terrific, Gotch and German before that.

If I'm wrong, correct me, but isn't one of Casey's main issues a lack of money that has driven some of the better VFL players away?

Also, I agree on Dom Barry. I reckon Roosy is trying to stamp his papers one way or another before the end of the year, but then what about the other blokes.

Blease has been getting 30 touches regularly but only ever gets bagged out by Allison for his one way running with not enough praise coming his way in turn.

Either you play the bloke or you put him out of his misery.

Roosy is a great coach, but he hasn't been at any club but Sydney for over 15 years and this is still a teething process.

Most of our reserve players are crap, but I don't think they are being given the chance to shine at what is clearly a negative environment.

12 Demons played against a Willy side that had not one AFL-list player.

If you include Troy Davis, a very reliable defender last year, we had 13 players who should be very prominent and confident.

We lost by 80 points.

I know some of you are blaming the standard of the Casey lads this year and some of you just reckon our fringe Melbourne players are crap.

But you don't lose that badly without something not being right.

Quite obviously Rowan Welsh has lost them and I suspect Brett Allison's highly critical player reviews would be losing some as well.

You don't bag players in public as Allison has been doing.

Some may also be questioning how Dom Barry, with just nine disposals (eight in Allison's review) and two tackles gets great praise for a game in which he quelled the influence of Sam Iles, who is so good, he is not on a list anymore!

That is not to say I'm not pleased that Dom will get a chance to see if he can lift at a higher level, but there would be 10 guys in that side who would have felt aggrieved at his promotion ahead of them.

Here's my remedy.

1) Give Brett Allison the next month off doing reviews - he's about as positive as Mark Neeld.

2) Get Jade Rawlings in to take over from Welshy for the rest of the season - the players all respect Rawlings. He will clearly give them Roosy's gameplan and the players will have confidence that he has Roosy's ear when it comes to selection.

3) If we are not broke, lure a couple of in-form players from country or amo's on a three or four-game trial basis with the aim of having a look at them to see if they might be up to AFL rookie list level next season.

In general you are way off track but this comment in particular adds nothing to the debate. If the players are reading stuff put out for members they should know better and if they don't get more critical comment at the match reviews then they should.

The relationship with Casey seems to have stalled and maybe the fault is on both sides. The club (MFC) need to put in to make it work or if it is unworkable then pull out.

Only the club will know whether the relationship is positive or not, we are only going on the scoreboard which whilst it isn't good may not tell the true story.

Casye's biggest issue is poor management. The pokies debacle a few years ago gutted them and they show no sign of recovering from what I can see. They have consistently lost their best players, a couple to AFL sides but more to other VFL teams with better prospects. They have been forced to put together a team of kids and discards because every decent player has walked out on them. Add to that the fact that most of these guys hadn't played together before this year and it's a recipe for disaster, which is exactly what this season has become.

The VFL /AFL combo doesn't work.

You can't have 2 separate managers to have the say in how they want the club run.

Caseys admin is a basket case.

Time for the Dees to pull the pin and go it alone.

The inept performances of the Casey boys is bringing our boys down and creating bad habits.

Roos & PJ can't let this go on.

Big Changes must happen next year.

They are just a very average team

For the MFC players, it is not about the result, but the next contest, and your own individual performance and playing your role.

It's all about preparing for the next level and who cares what the result is.

For the Casey players, they just aren't even close to good enough.

In the end, Welsh is on a hiding to nothing.

I think he has probably given up and will leave at year's end, whether Casey are keen to keep him or not.

It seems to work at Hawthorn........A few years ago the Casey players were always in the named best players.....they were winning and played finals

Some bad admin has cost the club money and players

Now the MFC players are the most experienced and they are just kids themselves playing along side more kids from the TAC and other minor comps

It's no wonder they are getting smashed