It just dawned on me: very possible GWS are banking on Adelaide "making a stand" with Tippett and forcing him into the draft... where GWS will select him as a ruckman.

= Grundy not anywhere near as necessary for them.

Anddddd... Jon Giles has just re-signed at GWS too.

It just dawned on me: very possible GWS are banking on Adelaide "making a stand" with Tippett and forcing him into the draft... where GWS will select him as a ruckman.

= Grundy not anywhere near as necessary for them.

If Tippett went into the draft things would become very interesting. Would we take him if he's available at pick 4? Would he already be gone by then? I'd put money on it that he wouldn't slide down to Sydney's first pick.

Yes, just wrong timing for our list.

Btw, there seems to be the odd rumour that GWS will take Wines at 3 and leave Grundy on the table. I can't fathom that happening as Grundy perfectly complements their list, especially if Giles goes to Adelaide.

If the unthinkable did happen and they overlooked Grundy we'd have a massive decision to make. Grundy will be an absolute gun that any club would want, but we're desperate for mids. I assume we'd take O'Rourke or Macrae.

Have heard that GWS are happy to wait for an A grade ruckman until they think they are ready to contest the premiership. At this time they will just go and get one form another club.

Anddddd... Jon Giles has just re-signed at GWS too.

That might make it interesting. Where will Grundy fall???

I am convinced Oliver Wines is the player we must select.

He is perfect for us at the moment - all the stars have aligned.

Mates with Viney, fits Neelds' type perfectly, quality mid that we desperately need...

Plus impeccable sources have stated we'll take him pick 4 if available.

But I fully expect people in 4 years' time to be scratching their heads, trying to figure out how Plowman was selected so late, much in the same vein as Selwood, Dengerfield and Rioli.

This guy is an exceptional mover, defender and reader of the play.

Obviously not a good fit for us, as our backline is fairly well stocked but he will be a champion.

The closest thing I've seen to Scarlett.

Wouldn't surprise me to see GWS take him at pick 3.

Obviously no hope we'll select Lachie, but just saying.

Plus, he's a dees supporter.

Bump.

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Bump.

Plowman's a Dees supporter or Wines is?

Both.

If Grundy was available I would take him. Mids come on quicker therefore we can be patient for the best mids next year. Viney and Taggert and Jones etc may do for now. Dominant big men are hard to find and this kids got the hallmarks of one of the best. Taking the emotional pull that some have for Wines, I think Grundy is easily the best if available at pick 4.

I would love Plowman as well because I don't think our backline is as good as people make out however, unfortunately we can't do it all this year.

I am with you on this. Would not be disappointed if we got Grundy in lieu of Wines or Plowman as a gun defender; in fact if we cannot secure Wines please take Grundy/Plowman instead of a midfielder (I don't care how fast Toumpas and Co. can run) as I have bad memories of Scully who didn't exactly win us many matches off his boot despite being the highly-touted No. 1 pick!

Toumpas is our man

I wish the draft would be over already..

About time Plowman's name came up...Moves like a thoroughbred! ...I hear where you are coming from..

Looks to be a cut above TAC Cup in role as tall defender.. But his movement through the midfield and forward of is why he's so highly rated. I see glimpses of a couple of elite AFL midfielders in him.... speed, evasiveness, ball usage....is at the elite level.

Has been pigeon holed in defense with Cannons and not sure why... but think it's team structure and missed 50% of season with injury.. I think he's more than a defender and capable of being a dynamic midfielder or am i missing something ?

No, others have said similar, about being a mid, & I wonder about Stringer in that vein. Could he Stringer become alike a Pavlich or Goodes?

Grundy does look good doesn't he; he rucks, roves his own ball, marks strongly, kicks goals and just seems to be an all round good player. We would have to make a decision about Gawn if we took him and I could see him as an extra string in the forward line bow.

If we didn't have such a poor midfield you'd take him in a heartbeat.

If we had to chose between him, Toumpas and Wines; what do you do?

IMO Its no good having too many mids, all as kids. A spread of age would be good for our midfield development.

So with that & Viney coming into the group of Trenners & Grimes & Jones, picking a Plowman or Grundy to me would be OK. Or a Stringer.

We will be building onto what we already have for a long time, & I see us in the top 8 by, at least 2014... but top 2 will take some time longer.

Wines for me; Hard at it, prolific ball winner, ready to go. When we have possession we can dictate play. Without the ball we become slaves to an opponent’s game plan. Tough, hard at it, smart possession IMO will help us improve.

Stringer is the best all round player in this draft...... If it wasn't for the broken leg, he'd be pushing Whitfield to be taken number 1.....

Getting back to thread sort of.

I haven't seen a lot of Plowman, except for the 3min snippet supplied by AFL.

If we had the guts to take him it certainly wouldn't be a lost selection.

But then also viewing Whitfield, Toumpas and O'Rourke, I would rate Toumpas above O'Rourke & Whitfield.

Whitfield just doesn't have much of a body and may be found wanting early on.

So IMO any of the players above could end up in our lap.