Neeld got it seriously wrong with both Magner and Couch, there was probably 20 better players available, thus his assesment of Dawes is really concerning and probably clouded due to personal friendship.

Neeld got it seriously wrong with both Magner and Couch, there was probably 20 better players available, thus his assesment of Dawes is really concerning and probably clouded due to personal friendship.

Top of the morning to ya Blue.

Thats a really long post for you

Neeld got it seriously wrong with both Magner and Couch, there was probably 20 better players available, thus his assesment of Dawes is really concerning and probably clouded due to personal friendship.

So who are these 20 players picked after TC & JM that have had better seasons ?

So who are these 20 players picked after TC & JM that have had better seasons ?

Sorry I don't have a list, but I am talking all leagues Australia wide, Valenti, Geelongs Selwood VFL bro, even kids that were overlooked and not listed, all worth a go instead of just making up the numbers, with battlers just for the sake of it.

Edited October 7, 201213 yr by bluey

Sorry I don't have a list, but I am talking all leagues Australia wide, Valenti, Geelongs Selwood VFL bro, even kids that were overlooked and not listed, all worth a go instead of just making up the numbers, with battlers just for the sake of it.

That's some pretty solid evidence to back up your '20 better players' claim Bluey. Not.

Magner has upside. I expect to see him racking up numbers next year.

How did Neeld get it wrong? Magner and Couch were both rookies.

Not many clubs would have got 20 games out of two first year rookies.

Neeld got it seriously wrong with both Magner and Couch, there was probably 20 better players available, thus his assesment of Dawes is really concerning and probably clouded due to personal friendship.

I doubt Neeld is the kind of guy to let personal friendship affect decisions in his workplace. I think his assessment of Dawes is probably a lot more accurate than yours Bluey, having coached and worked with him directly for a number of years.

I'd trust Neeld to make the call that Dawes will add a lot to our side.

To add to that, Magner and Couch (not so much at senior level yet) are two of the best rookie listed players we have picked up in the last few years IMO, so he's doing better than the Bailey camp so far.

Edited October 7, 201213 yr by ThePassenger

Magner (like most of the team except for Jones, Tommy Mac and Howe) got puffed out by round 5 or 6.

I think there'll be a role for him next year and he needs to stay in the middle.

Moloney's departure will help his development.

Neeld got it seriously wrong with both Magner and Couch, there was probably 20 better players available, thus his assesment of Dawes is really concerning and probably clouded due to personal friendship.

I'm somewhat nervous as well concerning Dawes and all things Collingwood that Neeld seems to love. We must not use picks 3 or 4 or 13 for Dawes. MM doesn't seem to be enamoured with him as Carlton hasn't expressed interest that this stage.

The 3 years for Jamar and McKenzie makes me think that Neeld isn't the messiah some think he is. I just hope i'm bloody wrong.

I agree with you on Couch and Magner. They are battlers at best and won't have a long term future at MFC.

Keep one as a second year rookie and delist the other. Don't care which one.

Edited October 7, 201213 yr by Theo

Didn't he kick a goal with each of his first 2 kicks in AFL footy?

Not too many have done that.

Didn't he kick a goal with each of his first 2 kicks in AFL footy?

Not too many have done that.

Not sure if it was his first kick. If I remember he kicked a goal in the first quarter, then there was an incident before the ball returned to the centre, so he was given a second kick from which he goaled again.

He went from a ball winning machine in the first 2 rounds (and the preseason) to a defensive midfielder/forward to a sub and then to out of the team. I think Neeld definitely made a mistake in where he placed him. Should've freed him up a lot more

Sure - but this was a learning year for the players and the coach.

We will se if he has learned when we see Magner in the midfield almost exclusively 2013.

Neeld got it seriously wrong with both Magner and Couch, there was probably 20 better players available, thus his assesment of Dawes is really concerning and probably clouded due to personal friendship.

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