Pretty soft. not even worth a free

Player was rotating when tackled, taken to ground fairly softly

But knowing our luck with mrp..........

Buddys in trouble as well

Can somebody explain to me the NON holding the ball decision in the last quarter from Jeremy Howe's chase down tackle on whoever it was?

Well at least that clears up 1 of the 50 appalling decisions. I said at the time he either has to be reported or it was a free kick to him.

(On umpires - thought they were horrific for both sides. I state this every week but i will state it again - I have probably seen umpires cost a team 1 or 2 games in my 40 years following the game. However umpires are ruining the spectacle for me with continuous monotony - how do they get it so right in the finals and so wrong today)

Can somebody explain to me the NON holding the ball decision in the last quarter from Jeremy Howe's chase down tackle on whoever it was?

Can somebody explain to me the NON holding the ball decision in the last quarter from Jeremy Howe's chase down tackle on whoever it was?

Ash Mcgrath decision ? ugghh

The two marks in the forward line that the ball both times clearly hit the ground. ugggh

The ball that bounced of Macdonalds hands and was grabbed by his opponent and called a mark . uggghh

The shepherding off the ball by MacDonald. ugggghhh

The Magner second goal because a [censored] push in the back as the ball is on the way to the centre - uggghhh

The umpires continually being caught on the wrong side of the pack and still paying not getting the ball even though they have zero idea of where the ball is . YOU ARE GUESSING YOU IDIOTS.

They made no difference to our performance but the incompetence upsets me.

I had thought that sling tackles were only illegal if the "victim's" head hit the ground.

That didn't happen in this case, but one of ours was the "victim" in a very similar tackle on the outer HFF Richmond end, with no free, not long before this disgraceful holding the ball incident!!

Can somebody explain to me the NON holding the ball decision in the last quarter from Jeremy Howe's chase down tackle on whoever it was?

No

As obvious a "holding the ball" as i've ever seen, nothing else happening within 10 meters to distract the umpires eye either.

And the 2nd man "over the mark" in the forward pocket ....TWICE....after Clarke's first goal was disallowed and a replay ordered.

Umpire went missing in both cases.

But also, where were Melbourne's players remonstrating to the umpire to pull that 2nd lion further away from the mark against Clarke?? Top clubs players do this often and do it with passion, they don't lie down and just accept poor umpiring, they let the umpires know about it big time. We allow ourselves to be dominated by everyone on the field, including the umps. We are not even close to doing the little things that the top clubs do "on the field" at this point in so many aspects, this being just one minor part.