Don't really mind the draft fixing for the two new teams, but the salary cap fixing really bugs me.

Does anybody know how long(how many years) GWS & GC have extra room in their salary caps?

Thank God for the salary cap. Melbourne wouldn't be in existence otherwise.

Maybe we could do the maths.

How much have they got to spend firstly?

Then we could work out how much they got to spend on Marqee players then kids, then try and work out another Scully thread

Don't really mind the draft fixing for the two new teams, but the salary cap fixing really bugs me.

Does anybody know how long(how many years) GWS & GC have extra room in their salary caps?

Gold Coast draft concessions

2011 - 48 senior list, nine rookies with $1m TPP extra allowance;

2012 - 46 senior list, nine rookies with $800k TPP extra allowance;

2013 - 42 senior list, nine rookies with $600k TPP extra allowance;

2014 - 40 senior list, nine rookies with $400k TPP extra allowance;

2015 - 38 senior list, nine rookies in line with other AFL clubs.

The same rules apply for GWS, except pushed back a year, of course.

So how many players do they have to delist after their first season? Is it a minimum of three draft picks you've got to take? With that and the reduction of two on the list that's five kids/broken down hacks given the boot at the end of the first year. Wonder if any of the kids will get a run elsewhere. GWS maybe!

So how many players do they have to delist after their first season? Is it a minimum of three draft picks you've got to take? With that and the reduction of two on the list that's five kids/broken down hacks given the boot at the end of the first year. Wonder if any of the kids will get a run elsewhere. GWS maybe!

Yep, they'll have to delist five players a season. Plus I think a rookie can only spend two years on the rookie list, they then need to be re-rookied (?), delisted or promoted, which costs another draft pick and another player to be delisted.

Yep, they'll have to delist five players a season. Plus I think a rookie can only spend two years on the rookie list, they then need to be re-rookied (?), delisted or promoted, which costs another draft pick and another player to be delisted.

And virtually all of their list will be out of contract inside 2 years......wait for the cheque-books to appear at Collingwood and Carlton. What they are doing to Callum Ward and Tom Scully will be paid back in spades.....

well Nathan Ablett has done his role already (get gary to play).

So he's gone! Unless Gary has an influence on the list which i would highly doubt

Yep, they'll have to delist five players a season. Plus I think a rookie can only spend two years on the rookie list, they then need to be re-rookied (?), delisted or promoted, which costs another draft pick and another player to be delisted.

Not nescessarily; promoted rookies are now allowed to be one of your mandatory three picks.

Not nescessarily; promoted rookies are now allowed to be one of your mandatory three picks.

What about bringing in players you gain in a trade?

What about bringing in players you gain in a trade?

Players gained via trades just muddy the waters. Under the AFL's form of socialism, you must use at least three draft picks and to do that you must have spots on your list for each of them. Last year, or was it the year before, they changed the rules and said that promoted rookies could be one of your mandatory three picks.

On a related matter, rookies not promoted via a LTI but as a result of veteran's allowance must be promoted or delisted at the end of the season. Juice is currently in this position.

Again muddying the waters, and if someone knows for sure, I would appreciate the information, are the rookies that can be played after the point, round 11, or 12 or so, where you can play a rookie without a LTI. I would assume that the same rules apply to them as to the ones replacing players on a LTI. That is they can go back onto the rookie list, notwithstanding any other rookie rules.