I still don't believe we deserve to make it on the season as a whole (losing more games than you win is not a finals team IMO) however the teams above us don't seem to want to play finals either and keep falling over.

It would be remarkable, however unlikely.

One of those games is in fact a draw so it would be 10-1-11 (providing we dont win against hawthorn) that is close enough in my eyes as a 50 percent strike rate not too bad. And 50 percent of our games were losses and 50 percent weren't sooooooo

There are a few really nice cheesecake recipes with chocolate in them.

I don't think we deserve to make 8, if we do then it will be with 10 1/2 wins sides should not make finals footy with more loses then wins, i think they should change the finals,if a team loses more then they win then they should not play finals footy.

I don't think we deserve to make 8, if we do then it will be with 10 1/2 wins sides should not make finals footy with more loses then wins, i think they should change the finals,if a team loses more then they win then they should not play finals footy.

So the side that comes 5th gets a bye if the side that comes 8th (more losses than wins.)Logical.

to rank bails overall performance this year...

at the moment he deserves a 'C'

C* since he has improved on last year....win no more games for the year.

B* if we win one or two games more for the year (10th or Less)

A if we finish 9th

A+ If we make the finals....

*Happy to make it a C+ or B+ if we lose the games by small margins...

Poor old Brock Mclean, and CJ for that matter (didn't he put in a shocker on saturday!!!)

I laughed so hard when I saw that footage of CJ dropping a simple handpass with the ball then going out of bounds.

Despite the thread I started, if us making the finals means Carlton missing them, then that would be a nice feeling.

From our perspective I think that it is important that Richmond had a win on the weekend, not only because it dented Adelaide's chances but also ensures that we don't take them lightly. Frawley to Riewoldt, Jordie to Martin.

One of those games is in fact a draw so it would be 10-1-11 (providing we dont win against hawthorn) that is close enough in my eyes as a 50 percent strike rate not too bad. And 50 percent of our games were losses and 50 percent weren't sooooooo

Again another person satisfied with "close enough".

12 wins is the minimum to achieve a "winning" season.

"Close" will not win us flags.

Again another person satisfied with "close enough".

12 wins is the minimum to achieve a "winning" season.

"Close" will not win us flags.

Then it's lucky that we're not talking about winning flags in this thread. To make the finals, you need to have more points than eight other sides. Currently, Carlton and Sydney do, and it may just be that in a few weeks time, Melbourne may also. If that's the case, then we get to give our young team at least one more game of AFL than we would have otherwise been able to this year. This alone makes it worthwhile to get there.