http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/collingwo...o-1225806508181

Let's see how the coward goes in stir. He won't of course, just a slap on the wrist most likely

"Defence lawyer Rainer Martini said his client had a low IQ, was extremely immature and had a difficult, fractured family background.

He said Siegle had consumed alcohol and smoked cannabis and..." what a waste of words.

"Defence lawyer Rainer Martini said his client was a collingwood supporter" would have covered it.

"Defence lawyer Rainer Martini said his client had a low IQ, was extremely immature and had a difficult, fractured family background.

He said Siegle had consumed alcohol and smoked cannabis and..." what a waste of words.

"Defence lawyer Rainer Martini said his client was a collingwood supporter" would have covered it.

PRECISELY

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/collingwo...o-1225806508181

Let's see how the coward goes in stir. He won't of course, just a slap on the wrist most likely

All should get whipped if you ask me or let Nugget,Moloney & Miller in the cell with them for an hour. Then see who is brave.

They will all get jail,in particular the two who has pleaded not guilty.

BLOODY COWARDS

I think the "fact" he's a Collingwood supporter has nothing to do with this and we should not use this incident to generalise an entire supporter base.

He probably couldn't name 4 pies players and I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't even go to the game.

Seems to be a very sad individual who should be dealt with harshly IMO

Agreed 45HG16. I don't see what this has to do with Collingwood at all, and am pretty disappointed the author of the headline and the article bothered mentioning it. It's not relevant. This guy is just a farquit, it doesn't matter what football team he supports.

I think the "fact" he's a Collingwood supporter has nothing to do with this and we should not use this incident to generalise an entire supporter base.

He probably couldn't name 4 pies players and I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't even go to the game.

Seems to be a very sad individual who should be dealt with harshly IMO

Agreed to some extent, but if they want to trot out the cliches about Range Rovers and snow chalets, they can cop some back. In this case, while not representative of all filth supporters, I would suggest the behaviour is "A-typical"

Edited December 3, 200916 yr by iv'a worn smith

jail+ life ban from Afl games for the gutless pricks would b good

Seems to be a very sad individual who should be dealt with harshly IMO

Collingwood jokes aside, I think your right.

There is no case of revenge or justice being done here.

A case of a dysfunctional bloke from a broken upbringing does damage to an innocent person.

The guy will and should be punished for the crime but there are no winners in this.

Agreed to some extent, but if they want to trot out the cliches about Range Rovers and snow chalets, they can cop some back. In this case, while not representative of all filth supporters, I would suggest the behaviour is "A-typical"

Hardly justifies it.

jail+ life ban from Afl games for the gutless pricks would b good

Howe does the AFL prevent a banned someone from attending an AFL game?

Agreed to some extent, but if they want to trot out the cliches about Range Rovers and snow chalets, they can cop some back. In this case, while not representative of all filth supporters, I would suggest the behaviour is "A-typical"

This is an event that transcends footy.

It is was a terrible thing to happen, especially for Brad and his family, but this is an issue that should be left to the courts to deal with.

We as football fans should obviously be against any violent action against supporters. We should not try to rile up opposition fans over violence against one of our own - using one horrible event to have a dig at an opposition.

I don't understand you last sentence, it seems it just repeats itself but I think you get where I'm coming from.

BTW, for every jibe we receive about Range Rovers I'm sure they get about 10 back in return.

Collingwood jokes aside, I think your right.

.................Hardly justifies it.

Justifies what? A bit of banter on a MFC related forum with my comrades? P.................leeeaase!!!!

I can tell you, my Magpie mates have copped a few emails from me today and I suspect I will cop some from them over the course of the next year. Such is the life of a footy supporter.

I can tell you, my Magpie mates have copped a few emails from me today ....

Lucky them.

Each to their own.

Collingwood jokes aside, I think your right.

There is no case of revenge or justice being done here.

A case of a dysfunctional bloke from a broken upbringing does damage to an innocent person.

The guy will and should be punished for the crime but there are no winners in this.

Hardly justifies it.

Howe does the AFL prevent a banned someone from attending an AFL game?

The same way Crown Casino bans people from coming in and the same way Racing clubs do.

Lucky them.

Each to their own.

That's right RR. As per usual, take one phrase out of a post, twist it to buggery and use it to suit you own ends. For what it is worth, I understand the rule of law better than most here and represented many clients in far worse situations than these guys. But I am not now in the Court of public opinion, rather I am on a Demon forum and your arbitrary use of censorship is far worse than anything I have said on this particular topic

This is an event that transcends footy.

It is was a terrible thing to happen, especially for Brad and his family, but this is an issue that should be left to the courts to deal with.

We as football fans should obviously be against any violent action against supporters. We should not try to rile up opposition fans over violence against one of our own - using one horrible event to have a dig at an opposition.

I don't understand you last sentence, it seems it just repeats itself but I think you get where I'm coming from.

BTW, for every jibe we receive about Range Rovers I'm sure they get about 10 back in return.

The ONE TODAY HAS BEEN SENTENCED-Judge sentenced Siegle to 12 months' detention in a youth justice centre, to be served immediately.The others will a greater term.That will teach the thugs.

The Defence Lawyer is probably too nice a guy to have to deal with such cases. Having said that, if it wasn't for the expertise of Rainer, the kid may have gotten worse.

That's right RR. As per usual, take one phrase out of a post, twist it to buggery and use it to suit you own ends. For what it is worth, I understand the rule of law better than most here and represented many clients in far worse situations than these guys. But I am not now in the Court of public opinion, rather I am on a Demon forum and your arbitrary use of censorship is far worse than anything I have said on this particular topic

i hate lawyers, but if there Demons i will turn a blind eye, 12mnths mite teach the young lad to keep his hands to himself.

The same way Crown Casino bans people from coming in and the same way Racing clubs do.

If they can police it. Crown Casino would be far easier to police than any AFL ground particularly with the hordes of people flooding in the hour before kick off.

That's right RR. As per usual, take one phrase out of a post, twist it to buggery and use it to suit you own ends. For what it is worth, I understand the rule of law better than most here and represented many clients in far worse situations than these guys. But I am not now in the Court of public opinion, rather I am on a Demon forum and your arbitrary use of censorship is far worse than anything I have said on this particular topic

I didn't take anything out of context. And you as a lawyer should know better than that. And for the sake of facts I have used no censorship whatsoever. Everything you have written in this thread is your own and on display and its hardly impressive. But your chuffed. Good work.

Like I said "Each to their own". Go Chill.

If they can police it. Crown Casino would be far easier to police than any AFL ground particularly with the hordes of people flooding in the hour before kick off.

Police it is an issue- however a suspension or banning- can be a easier way of letting their voiceheard. You know that....

Howe does the AFL prevent a banned someone from attending an AFL game?

Obviously its tough, but it does happen in EPL.

You can start by preventing anyone from buying tickets in that name, or from owning a membership.

Might not be foolproof, but there are ways.

I didn't take anything out of context. And you as a lawyer should know better than that. And for the sake of facts I have used no censorship whatsoever. Everything you have written in this thread is your own and on display and its hardly impressive. But your chuffed. Good work.

Like I said "Each to their own". Go Chill.

RR, I am not referring simply to this topic. You regularly take things out of context and regularly censor other topics and posts. By the way, I am by no means chuffed and I have no need to "chill" I am quite comfortable, thanks very much. Perhaps the chill factor is something you seriously need to contemplate.

Go Dees!!!

Maggots of humans..... :angry:

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You had no need to carry on like you did and you have done on other threads. Glad you're comfortable with the melodrama. Go Dees!

Police it is an issue- however a suspension or banning- can be a easier way of letting their voiceheard. You know that....

Sorry missed the cryptics after the word "issue". Given the situation at AFL grounds I cant see how they police it.

Obviously its tough, but it does happen in EPL.

You can start by preventing anyone from buying tickets in that name, or from owning a membership.

Might not be foolproof, but there are ways.

Agree its tough. In EPL they have smaller grounds with segragated entry and standing with security amongst and with the crowds before and during the games due to past disasters.

AFL tickets are not bought in people's name so without tighter IT security AFL grounds will struggle to enforce it.

I for one cant work out how you could ban someone from an AFL ground in Australia. Anyone can go up, pay their cash up at the window, and walk through the turnstile.

The 'woman' that threw the cup of beer at Brad Johnson last year while bragging about it to a friend on the phone 'banned' herself from Lions games for two years or something didnt she? It's merely a symbolic gesture to be banned from games here.

Same with a cricket game, if you get thrown out for playing up during a One-Day game at the G for instance, whats to stop you going around 3 gates further up and buying another ticket??