Not necessarily, they've said they're focusing on midfielders

That means nothing really?

If someone like Butcher slipped to 10 they would take him imo.

IMHO ... Essendon will take Melksham.

So you think if they had the choice they would pick Melksham over Butcher?

In saying this Butcher will not slide this far anyway.

Edited November 25, 200915 yr by Mr Morton

Sydney's got a jet in Jessie White in their hands already. Lewis Johnston was another KPP tall they took last year and have all but got Bradshaw.

Funny you should say that ....

White & Johnston ... I'm not convinced Sydney see either as genuine full-forwards.

Bradshaw ... now there is a ready made replacement for Micky O

But again I'm only 50/50 and could be wrong ...

So you think if they had the choice they would pick Melksham over Butcher?

Essendon have been warehousing talls for years ... they dont need anymore.

In saying this Butcher will not slide this far anyway.

I agree ... IMHO he is a

50/50 to go to Sydney

then a 95% chance to go to Port if Sydney pass over him.

They could well take someone like Jetta over Butcher, but its unlikely anyway. I'm happy with Talia/Black

Emma Quayle in her best 25 players rated Burgan's phantom draft picks as:

Tom Scully 2

Jack Trengove 1

Daniel Talia 13

Max Gawn N/A (but was in Shifter's top 30)

Troy Taylor 15

Liam Patrick N/A

Edited November 25, 200915 yr by JACKATTACK

So obviously a Melbourne supporter

Why's that? Because I haven't seen footage of him?! Wouldn't have anything to do with the fact I live in Brisbane and the best footy I get to see live is the QAFL?!

Why's that? Because I haven't seen footage of him?! Wouldn't have anything to do with the fact I live in Brisbane and the best footy I get to see live is the QAFL?!

Ummm....woops....

I was referring to Burgan, sorry mate

When I first saw Gawn at 18, I thought "What the hell?"

I'm beginning to warm to the idea of selecting Gawn. We need a ruckman, his height is a massive bonus, even if he's not as talented around the ground as other ruckmen, and he could be a bit plus with a couple of years development, particually as he fills out a lot more.

love it if the draft played out this way. only change i'd make would be black for talia. that'd be some forward line in a few years. match up on that one.

It's a great result for us if that happens.

However, we're still short a few midfielders that we'll pick up in the next year or two.

Ummm....woops....

I was referring to Burgan, sorry mate

haha, sorry about that! I thought you had meant because I hadn't seen him play?! My apologies also! But agree with you - I think he's got red and blue blood!

It's a great result for us if that happens.

However, we're still short a few midfielders that we'll pick up in the next year or two.

correct. don't forget jack viney coming through in a few years. the first thing GC and GWS are going to do is sure up their key position stocks, meaning midfielders will get through

I was wondering about that, I noticed that GC17 have listed their twelve 17 y.o. players that they're taking.

Does anyone know much about them. Only Josh Toy is a really well known prospect. Are they mostly midfielders, a mixture or more talls?

I would say Burgan will be close to the mark for the first dozen picks but at some stage, it will all go off track and a club will make an unexpected selection. At that point in time, a lot of his work will unravel.

Anyone have a link to footage of Gawn?

http://www.afl.com.au/video/tabid/76/video...px#VideoPlayerB

Here it is.

Burgan's is a hack, is success rate is around 22% for 2007 & 17% for 2008... Smells like a HACK to me.

Sounds about right.

If we picked up Gawn @ 18, ahead of Tapscott and Bastinac Id be [censored].

Were not that dumb - he'll still be around at 34 if were that keen.

http://www.afl.com.au/video/tabid/76/video...px#VideoPlayerB

Here it is.

Great - thank you mate!

http://www.afl.com.au/video/tabid/76/video...px#VideoPlayerB

Here it is.

You certainly warm to him when you watch those highlights. We do have a problem in the ruck and he could be the next Sandilands. He would solve a forward problem too in bursts resting up forward as he can take a grab.

I'm all for us selecting Gawn but it would be far better if we could snare him at 34 instead of 18 (where there will still be some quality runners available).

Just imagine if Gawn developed well over the next 3 or 4 years ... He'll be the next Sandliands-type giant in the AFL, tapping the ball down to Scully, Trengove and co for the next decade.

We'd be unstoppable!

If he drops to 34, that'd be great.

Maybe look at Carlisle or Bastinac at 18.

If they pick up a ruckman that's just done his knee at 18 I won't be happy. IMO they have to go for a clearance midfielder at 18 so if it's not Ball they should be going for Stevens he's the best clearance player in the draft gets plenty of the ball and was the captain of Vic Country so he is also a leader.

Happy with the rest but I don't think we will recruit both Taylor and Patrick.

Burgan's picks would be my ideale draft!

Look over picks around 18 mark in previous years... the chance of getting a gun are very low. Going for a highly rated needs based pick is pretty reasonable strategy.

I really want Scully, Trengove, Tahlia and Taylor. Strengthens significantly our midfield and forward-line.

Pick 18 will almost certainly be a ruckman- both Gawn and Vardy seems worthy of pick18.

Pick 50 will probably be a smoky preders has his eye on. Patrick Smith is a perfect smoky. Darwin factor as well.

I guess it just depends if BP & staff think that Gawn will drop to 34.

I think 18 is a reasonable price for a quality ruckman.

I think 18 is a reasonable price for a quality ruckman.

I don't think there is a quality ruckman in the draft. Vardy and Gawn's stats aren't overly impressive. The best ruckman at the carnival was 194cm.

Yes, and keeping in mind that Meesen was an elite ruckman in the 2004 draft