Scenario - which do you prefer ?

[titan_uranus 24,654]

Carltank.

CARLTANK!!!

I would have thought that, by now, you two might have the sense to stop using that term, given the team you support.

Carlton did nothing that we haven't done.

[Sir Why You Little 36,670]

I would have thought that, by now, you two might have the sense to stop using that term, given the team you support.

Carlton did nothing that we haven't done.

I Beg Your Pardon-You obviously know nothing of Carltons History Between 1965-1995.

The Rorted the systems in place at will. I suggest you do a little reading.

[brey9186 102]

Carlton, definitly

[titan_uranus 24,654]

I Beg Your Pardon-You obviously know nothing of Carltons History Between 1965-1995.

The Rorted the systems in place at will. I suggest you do a little reading.

So it's okay to bag Carlton for 'rorting the system', when we all advocate trying to lose games instead of trying to win?

It doesn't matter what Carlton did. The fact is, we are rorting the current system by choosing not to win games when we could be.

If we are going to call for the club to lose games to get a PP, we must stop insulting other clubs who did the same.

[AzzKikA 2,371]

Stay on topic, if you want to flurry off about Carlton, create a new one.

I would love to falter Carlton's top 4 hopes, don't think it will happen but still it would be great. I just hope we don't beat Freo then Carlton see a chance to wreck our hopes of PP and lose to us.

[Sir Why You Little 36,670]

So it's okay to bag Carlton for 'rorting the system', when we all advocate trying to lose games instead of trying to win?

It doesn't matter what Carlton did. The fact is, we are rorting the current system by choosing not to win games when we could be.

If we are going to call for the club to lose games to get a PP, we must stop insulting other clubs who did the same.

Carlton Cheated in many ways over decades. They ran their own race & were proud of it.

The Current Priority Pick rules Stand, bought in by the AFL. The MFC is not cheating at all. We have 40 odd players on our list & can pick whom ever we like to take the field, as it stands now we have 26 available players i think.

I am not a great fan of the present PP system but i don't like your inference that our club is cheating. Coz it aint.

I am not saying we or any club is squeaky clean, but cheating it is not.

Don't forget the AFL has been watching our ongoing business plan for a good couple of years very closely.

We are not in the same league as carlton.

[heartbeatstrue 57]

My choice ( probably totally unrealistic, but one can dream)- beat St Kilda by 1 point - we would end their winning streak ( if they are still undefeated by then) - but it would give us a great morale boost . AND I HATE ST KILDA !!

Dream on! And why do you hate St Kilda that much? I've always found their supporters suitably humble. They've suffered more than most, and remember we beat them in that heroic final on that Friday in the wet in 2006, losing Grant Thomas his job in the process.

CARLCHEATS without any shadow of doubt. Sweet revenge, of sorts.

[titan_uranus 24,654]

Carlton Cheated in many ways over decades. They ran their own race & were proud of it.

The Current Priority Pick rules Stand, bought in by the AFL. The MFC is not cheating at all. We have 40 odd players on our list & can pick whom ever we like to take the field, as it stands now we have 26 available players i think.

I am not a great fan of the present PP system but i don't like your inference that our club is cheating. Coz it aint.

I am not saying we or any club is squeaky clean, but cheating it is not.

Don't forget the AFL has been watching our ongoing business plan for a good couple of years very closely.

We are not in the same league as carlton.

I understand where you're coming from. However, the term Carltank is a pretty unambiguous reference to Round 22, 2007. We on Demonland used it to bag them for trying to lose that match to get the PP. I stand by my comment that no pro-tanking/list-management Melbourne supporter should use that term. It stinks of hypocrisy. That's really what I wanted to get at.

All that aside, if we don't beat Fremantle this week there wouldn't be much greater satisfaction than beating Carlton and stuffing up their finals campain. It's bad enough to think that they're actually going to play finals.

[Adam The God 29,431]

Dream on! And why do you hate St Kilda that much? I've always found their supporters suitably humble. They've suffered more than most, and remember we beat them in that heroic final on that Friday in the wet in 2006, losing Grant Thomas his job in the process.

CARLCHEATS without any shadow of doubt. Sweet revenge, of sorts.

Personally, I've come across many arrogant St Kilda supporters, hence why I hated them a few years back, but then they've just been pretenders for the past 5 seasons, so I've softened on them. I'd rather them win it than Collingwood or Geelong though.

[Sir Why You Little 36,670]

I understand where you're coming from. However, the term Carltank is a pretty unambiguous reference to Round 22, 2007. We on Demonland used it to bag them for trying to lose that match to get the PP. I stand by my comment that no pro-tanking/list-management Melbourne supporter should use that term. It stinks of hypocrisy. That's really what I wanted to get at.

All that aside, if we don't beat Fremantle this week there wouldn't be much greater satisfaction than beating Carlton and stuffing up their finals campain. It's bad enough to think that they're actually going to play finals.

Football is a tough game on & off the field.

Back in 2007 i had no problems with Carltons "Tanking" as they were doing it within the Rules.

I was far more disapointed that we let them walk over us in that round 22 match, although i would not be suprised if our caretaker coach of the day Mark Riley had already committed to the Carlton assistant job going forward.

That is what made me feel sick.

[dee-luded 2,959]

If we lose to Freo ( we can then afford to win one more game without losing PP ) would you rather

- a - beat Carlton

- b - beat St Kilda

My choice ( probably totally unrealistic, but one can dream)- beat St Kilda by 1 point - we would end their winning streak ( if they are still undefeated by then) - but it would give us a great morale boost . AND I HATE ST KILDA !!

If we lose to Freo ( we can then afford to win one more game without losing PP ) would you rather

- a - beat Carlton :D

- b - beat St Kilda

PS: I'd like to introduce Mr Judd to Mr Wrecker. B)

Edited August 13, 2009 by dee-luded

[dee-luded 2,959]

So it's okay to bag Carlton for 'rorting the system', when we all advocate trying to lose games instead of trying to win?

It doesn't matter what Carlton did. The fact is, we are rorting the current system by choosing not to win games when we could be.

If we are going to call for the club to lose games to get a PP, we must stop insulting other clubs who did the same.

I think you've forgotten they Shafted us on-field & then hired our Coach of that day.

[Demon4Life 601]

rd 22 home game against the unbeaten saints, watching the game with a real cocky trash-talking st kilda mate of mine, as well as a great confidence booster for our team.

[pben 0]

Dream on! And why do you hate St Kilda that much? I've always found their supporters suitably humble. They've suffered more than most, and remember we beat them in that heroic final on that Friday in the wet in 2006, losing Grant Thomas his job in the process.

CARLCHEATS without any shadow of doubt. Sweet revenge, of sorts.

Issue to do with a previous girlfriend - that's all I can say !!

[Carlos Danger 380]

As much as I would enjoy seeing the Dockers get downed tomorrow and am almost certain of it happening, I hope we lose and again next week to Carlton. I want there to be no doubt about getting the priority pick which is worth so much at such a crucial time.

[Gorgoroth 12,712]

Carlton by a mile, I could listen to Freo's horrible song 100 times if we belted the scum bag blues by 10 goals.