Next Season, i believe we should only be playing players from the following list including the new draft picks we pick up, we just have to bite the bullet, as much as love the old players we just need to get experience in these guys. You could only really include bruce and Green from the players i have excluded

Bail

Bate

Blease

Buckley

Cheney

Davey

Frawley

Garland

Grimes

Jetta

Jones

Jurrah

Maric

Martin

Mcleen

Macnamara

Meesen

Miller

Moloney

Morton

Rivers

Strauss

Sylvia

Warnock

Watts

Wonaeamirri

So who have you left out? Wheelan, Wheatly, Robertson, McDonald, Jamar, Johnson?

You have only named 26 players, we will need more than that.

Jamar and PJ both won't go. The others are all on last legs. Although it wouldn't surprise me if robbo goes on for another year.

I think both Green and Wheatley will have a role to play next year. Both will be handy on the wing with Green pushing forward and Wheatley dropping back. Wheatley was very good last year, a few of us are starting to forget that.

McDonald, Robertson and now sadly Whelan need to go. Bruce will be there, but it will be to the detriment of the team.

Jamar and PJ both won't go. The others are all on last legs. Although it wouldn't surprise me if robbo goes on for another year.

Yup.

Starting a thread asking to play ONLY kids with "potential" (more or less) is indicative of how little fans on websites know.

Throw them to the wolves as a pack of teenagers and it will stunt their growth.

That said, given the patchy form of the majority of our elders, I reckon it may come true, the axing of our seniority.

The ones I'll miss the most are Whelan and Robbo. Two of the best demons in my time following footy, and pretty much the last of the Neitz brigade.

I love Robo but gee. he frustrates me. I've lost count the amount of times he's worked his way to the front only to then try and take a chest mark instead of taking it out in front of him, allowing the defender to get his hand in and punching the ball away. Such a basic error that is one of the first things your taught in schoolboy footy.

Yup.

Starting a thread asking to play ONLY kids with "potential" (more or less) is indicative of how little fans on websites know.

Throw them to the wolves as a pack of teenagers and it will stunt their growth.

That said, given the patchy form of the majority of our elders, I reckon it may come true, the axing of our seniority.

The ones I'll miss the most are Whelan and Robbo. Two of the best demons in my time following footy, and pretty much the last of the Neitz brigade.

kids?????

i think your forgetting that alot of the players mentioned have played for three or more seasons or are 21 and older, there are some that are young yes but they are not all kids. playing the younger players we see who has the determination to turn that potential into results

ps. last time i checked you become an adult when you turn 18

Green could play on for a number of seasons so I don't see why you'd exclude him. Bruce will also play.

Whelan, Robertson, McDonald and Wheatley could all be moved on at the end of the year.

ps. last time i checked you become an adult when you turn 18

Take a look at the body shapes and sizes of 18 year olds (~year 12 age) versus elite AFL footballers aged 26 - there's a massive difference.

IMO only Green and Davey has played to the standard i would expect from our senior group this season

Yup.

Starting a thread asking to play ONLY kids with "potential" (more or less) is indicative of how little fans on websites know.

Throw them to the wolves as a pack of teenagers and it will stunt their growth.

Yep. Play only kids and we will bottom-out next year (as in, go down again from this year, could you imagine!?!) and that would be disatrous. We need another 4 or 5 to step up like Sylvia and Frawley from now until the end of the year and another half-a-dozen early next year. I am thinking (hoping) we win at least 6 games next year. Seven or eight would be nice, but I'd just take getting our arses off the bottom at this stage, with another 20 games into the Mortons, Jurrahs, Bennells, Frawleys and co.. Then we can push on for 2011 and look for double-figures in terms of wins.

ps. last time i checked you become an adult when you turn 18

Last time I checked you become an adult when you start thinking and acting like one ... age is immaterial and only a "legal" yard stick.

The big issue the club faces in the next 6 mths is it has to delist 5-7 players by October, most agree that our younger players have shown potential, so 3-4 of the delistings will need to come from the group of senior players. Due to this I think a couple might have their AFL future cut short as IMO McDonald, Robbo, Whelan are the ones in the gun but all three could still play on next year.

Green could play on for a number of seasons so I don't see why you'd exclude him. Bruce will also play.

Whelan, Robertson, McDonald and Wheatley could all be moved on at the end of the year.

Take a look at the body shapes and sizes of 18 year olds (~year 12 age) versus elite AFL footballers aged 26 - there's a massive difference.

Indeed.

What I'm now thinking is a guy like Brad Green - is very important to the young brigade. He along with McLean, Sylvia & Rivers will need to show the way on and off the field, after the likes of Wheels, Robbo, McDonald, etc move on.

When we start winning, it's important to keep the young ones level headed and teach them that winning should be the 'norm'. Much like Judd is doing at Carlton. When wins are 'chalked up', may they enjoy it, but it's imperative that they recognise they've only obtained the 4 points, and that's it. The same when they kick a goal or two to grab the lead, it should be on with the job...and a "let's bury this mob" mentality.

Next Season, i believe we should only be playing players from the following list including the new draft picks we pick up, we just have to bite the bullet, as much as love the old players we just need to get experience in these guys. You could only really include bruce and Green from the players i have excluded

Bail

Bate

Blease

Buckley

Cheney

Davey

Frawley

Garland

Grimes

Jetta

Jones

Jurrah

Maric

Martin

Mcleen

Macnamara

Meesen

Miller

Moloney

Morton

Rivers

Strauss

Sylvia

Warnock

Watts

Wonaeamirri

what school did you go to Doveton Tech?(spelling) but l nearly agree with you

what school did you go to Doveton Tech?(spelling) but l nearly agree with you

Robbo

Whelan

Jamar yes

no way Bruce or Green

Green and Whelan and possibly Bruce to stay. Whelan is just a great imspiration for the younger guys down back. He is fearless in the Green mould and I believe that he is reliable leader when younger players need that influence. I am not saying that he would play a full year down there but until the younger players get some experience into them he should stay. When you see Green put his body on the line so soon after getting his head smashed in to me that is inspirational stuff for the young guys. What Green does is what they all should be doing - be fearless. Until Spencer and co show that they can match the big boys in the ruck we should keep PJ at least because against the odds he has done a great job over the last couple of weeks.

I think Robbo and McDonald will go of their own volition. Robbo looked uninterested which is probably how Robbo looks most of the time but there doesn't seem to be the same punch that there has been in the past.