Scully & Butcher

[Al`s DEMONS 0]

I know it's easy because you're a Melbourne supporter but don't always equate 'inside' with being slow.

We don't have an elite midfielder and we desperately need a few. Scully would be right at the top of our wishlist.

if he is he shouldnt be , we need another power forward first , hawks and lions have/had two power forwards ,Cats have multiple class options up forward . Watts in not enough

[Spaghetti 264]

those in the know say hes a great player but how many inside players do you need,

If he averaged 9 handball receives last season it seems he is both inside and outside

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

Scully is the man. Now all we have to hope is that some club doesn't get in his ear and tell him to take th foot off the gas so they can take him later in the draft. We need this guy. Has all the strengths we need as a club. Spencer to McLean, McLean to Scully, Scully to Strauss, Strauss to Blease, Blease runs into fifty and dabs one to Watts in the square who takes it over 3 opposition players. Boots it into the third level.

Meanwhile, Jared is chatting with Matthew about how best to tattoo one's spine with your own surname. Martin is having a push-up competition with Frawley in the square. Warnock is having a 30 minute nap up against the opposition goal-post with a pack of doritos and a [censored].

[Al`s DEMONS 0]

If he averaged 9 handball receives last season it seems he is both inside and outside

imagine how good the Eagles would have been with a couple of decent forwards,

[Guest digga]

Scully is the man. Now all we have to hope is that some club doesn't get in his ear and tell him to take th foot off the gas so they can take him later in the draft. We need this guy. Has all the strengths we need as a club. Spencer to McLean, McLean to Scully, Scully to Strauss, Strauss to Blease, Blease runs into fifty and dabs one to Watts in the square who takes it over 3 opposition players. Boots it into the third level.

Meanwhile, Jared is chatting with Matthew about how best to tattoo one's spine with your own surname. Martin is having a push-up competition with Frawley in the square. Warnock is having a 30 minute nap up against the opposition goal-post with a pack of doritos and a [censored].

LOL THAT [censored] IS CLASSIC, NICE WORK HAHAHAA

[Ho Chi Dee 0]

I've seen Scully a few times and he looks great - smooth and makes the right decisions.

Care to elaborate a little? It'd be much appreciated by those of us who don't have the opportunities to see him live.

From the very little I've seen and read of him, he certainly seems to be skilled and a good decision maker, however he doesn't appear to be a very offensive player - more a playmaker. Would that be a fair assumption? Pace looks ok without being special, but seems to be a player who "has time".

[dee-luded 2,959]

what club is Butcher from in the TAC cup?

http://www.sportingpulse.com/club_info.cgi...-3020-27623-0-0

Gippsland Power

Draftees since 2000

2000: Luke Ablett, Shane Birss, Dylan McLaren

2001: Jason Gram, Jacob Schuback

2002: Brendon Goddard, Jason Winderlich, Matthew Ferguson, Sean Dempster

2003: Ryan Murphy

2004: Jarryd Roughead, Andrew McQualter, Dean Polo

2005: Dale Thomas, Xavier Ellis, Scott Pendlebury, Trent West, Jay Neagle

2006: Lachlan Hansen, Tyson Goldsack, Ben Ross

2007: Dan McKenna

2008: Nick Heyne, Campbell Heath

[Ho Chi Dee 0]

if he is he shouldnt be , we need another power forward first , hawks and lions have/had two power forwards ,Cats have multiple class options up forward . Watts in not enough

While the cats have class up forward, they don't have that many classy power forwards. Most of their class comes from their small forwards. And their midfield scores plenty for them as well.

Drafting power forwards early simply because you lack them isn't the smartest choice. You asked how many inside midfields do we need - the answer is we need good ones. Currently we don't have them. We need to draft players who can consistently influence games, regardless of where they play.

We may have a chance to address each of our main failings with 2 of the first 3 picks this year, but I don't want Butcher (or any other power forward) first unless they've shown they've the potential to be match winners.

[Guest digga]

http://www.sportingpulse.com/club_info.cgi...-3020-27623-0-0

Gippsland Power

Draftees since 2000

2000: Luke Ablett, Shane Birss, Dylan McLaren

2001: Jason Gram, Jacob Schuback

2002: Brendon Goddard, Jason Winderlich, Matthew Ferguson, Sean Dempster

2003: Ryan Murphy

2004: Jarryd Roughead, Andrew McQualter, Dean Polo

2005: Dale Thomas, Xavier Ellis, Scott Pendlebury, Trent West, Jay Neagle

2006: Lachlan Hansen, Tyson Goldsack, Ben Ross

2007: Dan McKenna

2008: Nick Heyne, Campbell Heath

gee that answered my question lol NOT

[Al`s DEMONS 0]

While the cats have class up forward, they don't have that many classy power forwards. Most of their class comes from their small forwards. And their midfield scores plenty for them as well.

Drafting power forwards early simply because you lack them isn't the smartest choice. You asked how many inside midfields do we need - the answer is we need good ones. Currently we don't have them. We need to draft players who can consistently influence games, regardless of where they play.

We may have a chance to address each of our main failings with 2 of the first 3 picks this year, but I don't want Butcher (or any other power forward) first unless they've shown they've the potential to be match winners.

you example would not work with the hawks or great teams from previous eras- hawks of the 80`s , Bombers , Roos and the lions. im not suggesting draft any power forward. but the best one paired with Watts + Maric , Aussie and Bate will give teams something to worry about. we must not become one dimensional

[Al`s DEMONS 0]

While the cats have class up forward, they don't have that many classy power forwards. Most of their class comes from their small forwards. And their midfield scores plenty for them as well.

Drafting power forwards early simply because you lack them isn't the smartest choice. You asked how many inside midfields do we need - the answer is we need good ones. Currently we don't have them. We need to draft players who can consistently influence games, regardless of where they play.

We may have a chance to address each of our main failings with 2 of the first 3 picks this year, but I don't want Butcher (or any other power forward) first unless they've shown they've the potential to be match winners.

still got Strauss and Blease in the wings

[Neita3000 37]

How's this for a scenario.

I doubt Freo will win 4 games and assuming we don't either we'll be entitled to picks 1 and 3.

Now I have no idea who are the expected top draft picks besides Scully and Butcher but say a gun midfielder emerges from the crop do we take Butcher at #1 and leave Scully to go to Fremantle at #2?

I doubt this would happen but interesting to think about nether the less.

Would be great to have a Watts Butcher twin tower model in the likes of Buddy and Roughy however adding two young guns to our midifeld with good skill wouldn't hurt either.

[Ho Chi Dee 0]

you example would not work with the hawks or great teams from previous eras- hawks of the 80`s , Bombers , Roos and the lions. im not suggesting draft any power forward. but the best one paired with Watts + Maric , Aussie and Bate will give teams something to worry about. we must not become one dimensional

That wasn't my example - it was yours. Yes the current Hawks have a very successful two pronged KF attack, but its no longer a necessity. Football has moved on a hell of a long way since the Lions, let only the 80s.

The Hawks were fortunate to have the calibre of availabke KFs they had in 2004. I can't think of many other elite KFs who have gone early in recent drafts - to nab 2 at once is being struck up the arse by a rainbow.

If we draft 2 elite KFs over 2 years we'll also be falling on our feet.

still got Strauss and Blease in the wings

I'm not sure they will help with the lack of inside class we have. None of our inside midfielders consistently hurt the opposition once they have the ball. If that's not rectified, I don't hold much hope for players like Strauss and Blease to be feed enough to do damage of their own.

[Al`s DEMONS 0]

That wasn't my example - it was yours. Yes the current Hawks have a very successful two pronged KF attack, but its no longer a necessity. Football has moved on a hell of a long way since the Lions, let only the 80s.

The Hawks were fortunate to have the calibre of availabke KFs they had in 2004. I can't think of many other elite KFs who have gone early in recent drafts - to nab 2 at once is being struck up the arse by a rainbow.

If we draft 2 elite KFs over 2 years we'll also be falling on our feet.

I'm not sure they will help with the lack of inside class we have. None of our inside midfielders consistently hurt the opposition once they have the ball. If that's not rectified, I don't hold much hope for players like Strauss and Blease to be feed enough to do damage of their own.

i didnt see any of the weekends games but listening to reports on the radio it said " the Dees worked really hard at the stoppages and won its fair share of ball but when players looked up the ground there was no one to kick to" What is your idea of a functioning forward line. mine has two power forwards , one chf and one ff. recent history shows us the Bulldogs will only get so far. the Eagles are the only exception. people compare Tambling to Buddy , i would also have Roughhead over Deleido. so would the Tigers if they had their time again. plus the Dogs stuffed up with pick 3. Morton is on the way to becoming a class player.

[Its Time for Another 4,287]

That wasn't my example - it was yours. Yes the current Hawks have a very successful two pronged KF attack, but its no longer a necessity. Football has moved on a hell of a long way since the Lions, let only the 80s.

The Hawks were fortunate to have the calibre of availabke KFs they had in 2004. I can't think of many other elite KFs who have gone early in recent drafts - to nab 2 at once is being struck up the arse by a rainbow.

If we draft 2 elite KFs over 2 years we'll also be falling on our feet.

I'm not sure they will help with the lack of inside class we have. None of our inside midfielders consistently hurt the opposition once they have the ball. If that's not rectified, I don't hold much hope for players like Strauss and Blease to be feed enough to do damage of their own.

KF's are much harder to get than mid sized midfielders who can run. I'd go Butcher first every time. Look what we achieved with our midfield 3rd and 5th picks in 2004. At this stage you would have to worry that either of them are going to have great careers. Sylvia looks like he doesn't want to continue and Brock has just got very very slow and isn't contributing to the level we had all hoped.

[Sir Why You Little 37,127]

It shall be very interesting to see how many games Fremantle, Richmond & Melbourne win each this year.

Tanking will happen by round 13 i predict (Team selections Early Surgery appointments Taken) Those on the park will continue to play hard But Team Tanking will occur pre Gold Coast.

[Al`s DEMONS 0]

how many games did freo win last year?

[Al`s DEMONS 0]

How's this for a scenario.

I doubt Freo will win 4 games and assuming we don't either we'll be entitled to picks 1 and 3.

Now I have no idea who are the expected top draft picks besides Scully and Butcher but say a gun midfielder emerges from the crop do we take Butcher at #1 and leave Scully to go to Fremantle at #2?

I doubt this would happen but interesting to think about nether the less.

Would be great to have a Watts Butcher twin tower model in the likes of Buddy and Roughy however adding two young guns to our midifeld with good skill wouldn't hurt either.

just checked freo website, they won six games last year, therefore no priority pick. if we finish last this year and win four games or less we will get picks 1 @2

[e25 5]

How's this for a scenario.

I doubt Freo will win 4 games and assuming we don't either we'll be entitled to picks 1 and 3.

Now I have no idea who are the expected top draft picks besides Scully and Butcher but say a gun midfielder emerges from the crop do we take Butcher at #1 and leave Scully to go to Fremantle at #2?

I doubt this would happen but interesting to think about nether the less.

Would be great to have a Watts Butcher twin tower model in the likes of Buddy and Roughy however adding two young guns to our midifeld with good skill wouldn't hurt either.

Sorry mate, we won't have that dilemma -- Freo won 6 games last year.

You're thinking of WestCoast, who, so far, have shown, with their thrashing of Port, that they are probably going to win around 6-7 games, maybe more.

They are the only other team that could get a priority pick before round 1.

[H_T 3,049]

Nice article, stuff like this is what's going to make the next 4 months bearable. Bring on November!

I'm sure you will see stuff on field this year too, which will make it more bearable. At some stage.

Add him and Butcher. All of a sudden our prospective side looks very very good.

And Sylvia.

I've seen Scully a few times and he looks great - smooth and makes the right decisions. He'd be plug and play.

And without exageration, he'd already be in our best side. You'd be looking at a Rich/Palmer scenario.

Plug and play. I like it.

[Neita3000 37]

Sorry mate, we won't have that dilemma -- Freo won 6 games last year.

You're thinking of WestCoast, who, so far, have shown, with their thrashing of Port, that they are probably going to win around 6-7 games, maybe more.

They are the only other team that could get a priority pick before round 1.

I was thinking more of Carlton and Richmond in 2007.

Carlton finished 15th and still got picks 1 and 3. Whilst Richmond finshed bottom got picks 2 and priority pick 18. If Freo was to lose 4 or less games wouldn't it be the same situation??

I just might be confused.

[Maric Legend 0]

I was thinking more of Carlton and Richmond in 2007.

Carlton finished 15th and still got picks 1 and 3. Whilst Richmond finshed bottom got picks 2 and priority pick 18. If Freo was to lose 4 or less games wouldn't it be the same situation??

I just might be confused.

Nope. The Priority pick Freo would get if they won 4 games or less would be after Round 1, i.e. Pick 17

What happened in 2007 was Carlton won less than 4 games for the 2nd year in a row so got the priority pick before round 1, pick 1, but they finished 15th on the ladder with Richmond 16th, so Richmond got Pick 2.

[H_T 3,049]

Scully is the man. Now all we have to hope is that some club doesn't get in his ear and tell him to take th foot off the gas so they can take him later in the draft. We need this guy. Has all the strengths we need as a club. Spencer to McLean, McLean to Scully, Scully to Strauss, Strauss to Blease, Blease runs into fifty and dabs one to Watts in the square who takes it over 3 opposition players. Boots it into the third level.

Meanwhile, Jared is chatting with Matthew about how best to tattoo one's spine with your own surname. Martin is having a push-up competition with Frawley in the square. Warnock is having a 30 minute nap up against the opposition goal-post with a pack of doritos and a [censored].

And Bate & Cheney are down back sorting out who's in line to secure the contract for the pin-up boy of RED HEAD matches.

[Al`s DEMONS 0]

That wasn't my example - it was yours. Yes the current Hawks have a very successful two pronged KF attack, but its no longer a necessity. Football has moved on a hell of a long way since the Lions, let only the 80s.

The Hawks were fortunate to have the calibre of availabke KFs they had in 2004. I can't think of many other elite KFs who have gone early in recent drafts - to nab 2 at once is being struck up the arse by a rainbow.

If we draft 2 elite KFs over 2 years we'll also be falling on our feet.

I'm not sure they will help with the lack of inside class we have. None of our inside midfielders consistently hurt the opposition once they have the ball. If that's not rectified, I don't hold much hope for players like Strauss and Blease to be feed enough to do damage of their own.

if football has moved its come back full circle, Hawks last year, Saints with two talls are looking the goods while the dogs are 3 zip also, they have failed at the second last hurdle. Dogs drafted talls last year and lots of them, why bother doing that.

[Neita3000 37]

Nope. The Priority pick Freo would get if they won 4 games or less would be after Round 1, i.e. Pick 17

What happened in 2007 was Carlton won less than 4 games for the 2nd year in a row so got the priority pick before round 1, pick 1, but they finished 15th on the ladder with Richmond 16th, so Richmond got Pick 2.

Oh yep ok I get ya now.

Cheers