As much as I think he would make a good forward, and he's played there before, he's done so well for us in defence that he should be kept there now. Let him and Martin and Warnock and Rivers etc. gel together and become a defensive unit, rather than a rabble.

Our key defensive posts prospects look good and that gives me some confidence going into the future. Keep them together and build a understanding. We look like a rabble atm cause we are but things turn around quick. I bet you Hawks supporters in '04 would think they'll be no where near it come '08.

Our key defensive posts prospects look good and that gives me some confidence going into the future. Keep them together and build a understanding. We look like a rabble atm cause we are but things turn around quick. I bet you Hawks supporters in '04 would think they'll be no where near it come '08.

Don't forget, Jacey, we really only need 3 of the 190+cm backs to take on the opposition talls, if indeed the opposition of the day is playing 3 talls. If we try to load Garland, Warnock, Rivers and Martin into the backline, we are too tall for the oppositions runners and crumbers.

Rather than drop one of them, and because we don't have key position forwards, until Watts is weened, then Garland is the obvious choice IMO.

Don't forget, Jacey, we really only need 3 of the 190+cm backs to take on the opposition talls, if indeed the opposition of the day is playing 3 talls. If we try to load Garland, Warnock, Rivers and Martin into the backline, we are too tall for the oppositions runners and crumbers.

Rather than drop one of them, and because we don't have key position forwards, until Watts is weened, then Garland is the obvious choice IMO.

Didn't Garland play on Farmer in one game?

That only leaves Warnock and Martin, plus Rivers to take the third tall.

Didn't Garland play on Farmer in one game?

That only leaves Warnock and Martin, plus Rivers to take the third tall.

Yep, that's right. Wheatley can also take the 3rd tall. My preference is to develop Dunn into taking a third tall to add to his kitbag of capabilities, as Bruce had to do in the past. I like Wheatley to be more a utility player and use his pace and drive. Garland can try out at CHF, but also play back if absolutely necessary.

Rivers unlikely to be fit (hope thats wrong) and replaced by Bate.

Rhino - are you just speculating or is Rivers actually not due to be ready until after the 2009 season begins?

He's an automatic selection if fit. It surprises me that he's not in some of the teams already listed above.

Yep, that's right. Wheatley can also take the 3rd tall. My preference is to develop Dunn into taking a third tall to add to his kitbag of capabilities, as Bruce had to do in the past. I like Wheatley to be more a utility player and use his pace and drive. Garland can try out at CHF, but also play back if absolutely necessary.

I agree that Wheatley's better off playing further up the ground, but don't think Dunn is suitable for the 'third tall' role.

I agree that Wheatley's better off playing further up the ground, but don't think Dunn is suitable for the 'third tall' role.

You could be right, Rogue. But if that's right I wonder what the future role of Dunnie will be be. If he remains the new Godfrey, his future is clouded. If he was a forward he should have grasped a position there considering the poor state of our forward line this year.

B - Whelan Martin Warnock

HB - Grimes Rivers Green

C - Bruce Moloney Buckley

HF - Sylvia Miller Davey

F - Maric Watts Garland

R - Jamar McLean Morton

IC - McDonald Jones P.Johnson Bate

Emer - Wonaeamirri Wheatley Dunn

FB: Whelan Warnock Garland

HB: Petterd Martin Grimes

C: Morton Moloney Green

HF: Sylvia Rivers Davey

FF: Wonaeamirri Miller Maric

Foll: PJ McLean Valenti*

Int: Jamar Buckley Bate Bruce

Emergency: Jones Dunn Newton

*Pending promotion from Rookie List.

NOTE: This is assuming that Robertson isn't quite ready.

EDIT: I forgot about McDonald.

I would promote Valenti. Wona must also be promoted - no sure thing.

I care more about the lineup for Round 2

Rhino - are you just speculating or is Rivers actually not due to be ready until after the 2009 season begins?

He's an automatic selection if fit. It surprises me that he's not in some of the teams already listed above.

imo Rivers will play a month or 2 in the VFL before being brought back into the Melbourne side

imo Rivers will play a month or 2 in the VFL before being brought back into the Melbourne side

Why?

If Rivers is fit, he will play.

I want to know if its on public record that Rivers is currently on track to be ready for round 1 next year or the club has stated he will be available by round 4 (for example).

I can't find the information anywhere.

B - Whelan Martin Warnock

HB - Buckley Rivers Green

C - Morton Moloney Davey

HF - Maric Miller Bate

F - Sylvia Garland Woneamirri

R - Naitanui McLean Jones

IC - McDonald Wheatley P.Johnson Grimes

Emer - C.Johnson Petterd Dunn

You really are a TOOL!!!

The Country Member at his most pathetic !!!

ANKLES!!!! You would give your left one to know how the [censored] is being taken out of you!!!!!!

Once an Ankles CM always an Ankles CM

Rhino - are you just speculating or is Rivers actually not due to be ready until after the 2009 season begins?

He's an automatic selection if fit. It surprises me that he's not in some of the teams already listed above.

I am not an optimist for players when they have had OP for 12 months or more.

I agree if fit Rivers is in the side......if fit. Make that fully fit. Its disturbing how much footy he has missed.

I have not seen a public or reliable statement on where his fitness is at and when he will be back. At this point, I think any announcement of just when he will be back is going to be subject to......

It will be interesting just where he plays when he does come back given what has evolved up back.

You really are a TOOL!!!

The Country Member at his most pathetic !!!

ANKLES!!!! You would give your left one to know how the [censored] is being taken out of you!!!!!!

Once an Ankles CM always an Ankles CM

You dont even tell me the issue you have with the team I chose, you just attack me.

Nice one, cretin.

I have not seen a public or reliable statement on where his fitness is at and when he will be back. At this point, I think any announcement of just when he will be back is going to be subject to......

It will be interesting just where he plays when he does come back given what has evolved up back.

In between the lovers’ tiff above, thanks RR.

I just wanted confirmation on his status. Guess we won’t know anything until the preseason is completed. Fingers crossed. If he gets through it unscathed, then he’s a sure-start.

There’s plenty of room for him up back. Bell/Bartram either move forward or out. Its unfortunate he’s been out for so long. People forget how good he was 2004/2005. I don’t like him up forward. Others do.

YM & realist, can you two sort it out? You make a great couple.

Backs: M.Whelan, M.Warnock, C.Garland

Half backs: C.Bruce, J Rivers, P.Wheatley

Centreline: B.McLean, S.Buckley, B.Moloney

Half forwards: B.Green, J.Brown, R.Robertson

Forwards: A.Davey, B.Miller, C.Sylvia

Followers: M.Jamar, C.Morton, B.Cousins

Interchange: D.Bell, S.Valenti, P.Johnson , J Watts

Emg. R.Warnock, M.Bate, N.Jones

We trade right this team is very possible.

Stuff the 5 year plan when we can have this next year.

Maybe have a crack at Kerr while we are at it and the rebuild is complete and we go give it a shake.

Get Brown, R.Warnock, Kerr and Cousins eh?

What a brilliant idea I wonder how nobody else has thought of it yet

Re: Garland in the forward line - I don't want to see CG play anywhere but on the opposing main forward target. We need him to get every bit of experience possible to try and become a long-serving elite backman like M.Scarlett for example. We have lacked a good full back for some time now and as a result the elite forwards of the comp have consistently torn us new ones and it has cost us many, many games of football. Martin is also a very good prospect, just love the way he spoils marks like a basketballer putting a block on a shot at goal.